“ a compromise formula which includes a proposal to take top 20% students based on percentile ranking of respective boards for preparing the merit list”

How meaningless is this solution ?. Higher education in India will become the domain of the school toppers and Children of affluent parents and we wonder why half a million students leave India to study undergraduate courses overseas. Children who will never return to a country that shunned them.

Is this is what we call inclusive in RTE ?.

God Save India

Inclusive education does not mean that everyone must enter, or pass out from, an IIT. It only means that if you wanted to, you could have a shot at it. The child labourer is excluded because she can never dream of entering an IIT; she may absolutely hate IIT, but not trying to join an IIT should be her decision. Even if there is only one IIT train, every child must have access to the platform where the train comes. Of course, not everyone will get on to the train but everyone knows what to do to have a shot at the train. This is called inclusion in education. Everyone must go to school till class 12; those who work hard, and are willing to work harder still, will join an IIT. Others will, by choice, decide not to work that hard and become economists.

Shubhashis Gangopadhyay

All children are born equal and mindless politicians are trying to grade the children and youth of the nation and create a new Brahamanical Caste system in Education, which is pandering to the neo rich who can afford to send their children to elite private schools and Coaching schools.

"HRD Ministry of India wants to build castles of higher education on the bamboo scaffoldings of its schools" ~ Satish Jha

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Monday, March 12, 2012

11 - Scrap JEE for common test, Sibal signals to IITs - Telegraph India


Wednesday , March 24 , 2010


Testing time

New Delhi, March 23: The human resource development ministry has asked a panel of IIT directors to consider scrapping the four-decade old joint entrance examination and replacing it with a general aptitude test.

The panel of directors, headed by IIT Kharagpur chief Damodar Acharya, was set up by HRD minister Kapil Sibal last month to examine possible JEE reforms.

But under the panel’s terms of reference the directors have been asked to specifically focus on whether the IIT-JEE can be buried altogether, along with other national and state engineering entrance examinations, The Telegraph has learnt.

This is the first time any HRD ministry has moved towards ending the highly competitive JEE that the IITs have sworn by since the mid-1960s as a common entrance examination for the apex engineering schools.

Any move to end the JEE is likely to ignite opposition from within the IIT community and from sections of the political class.

The IIT-JEE has been ravaged by controversies in recent years, especially in 2006 when the IITs violated their cut-off determination procedure, denying seats to close to 1,000 deserving candidates — as was exposed by The Telegraph. But these blemishes apart, the JEE is credited by many for the success of the IITs.

Sibal had last month announced plans to introduce a common high school syllabus in the sciences and mathematics, and a common examination for admission into colleges along the lines of the US-based scholastic aptitude test.

When he was questioned at the time on whether such a common test would replace institution-specific examinations — specifically the IIT-JEE or the AIIMS entrance test — Sibal had not given a direct answer.

The terms of reference prepared by the HRD ministry, however, unambiguously ask the panel to “examine the possibility” of replacing the IIT-JEE and other engineering tests conducted across the country with a common entrance test (CET).

This CET, the detailed notification of the panel’s work profile says, should focus more on testing the general aptitude of students than on quizzing them on mathematics, physics and chemistry like the IIT-JEE and other examinations.

The notification, representing the vision of the ministry, suggests that the panel of directors work out a mechanism under which students are selected based on their scores in the Class XII board examination and the CET.

As the board examination in any case tests students in mathematics, physics and chemistry, the CET need not, the HRD ministry’s notification argues.

Apart from Acharya, the HRD ministry has made IIT Madras director M.S. Ananth, his Bombay counterpart Devang Khakhar and IIT Roorkee director S.C. Saxena members of this panel.

The CET will not just admit students to the IITs and other institutions that select students through the JEE, but will also replace All India Engineering Entrance Examination and state-specific entrance examinations, the notification says.

The AIEEE, which will end with the proposed CET, currently admits the majority of Indian engineering aspirants into colleges. Scores in the AIEEE are used by all central engineering colleges other than the IITs and to fill 50 per cent seats, even in colleges affiliated to state universities.

States fill the remaining 50 per cent seats of their engineering colleges based on their own entrance tests — which, too, the CET aims to end.

Sibal has argued that the multiplicity of entrance tests — where students often have to prove their ability repeatedly — hurts the interests of students.

But a nationwide CET that all institutions will be forced to accept rails against institutional autonomy, critics of this plan are likely to argue.

The IITs, for instance, have for long refused to admit students through the AIEEE — even though most students who appear for the IIT-JEE also appear for the AIEEE.

They have argued that the IIT-JEE — which they prepare — is specifically modelled to select the kind of students the IITs want.

The IIT-JEE in its current format also has many votaries in the political sphere who argue it allows students from non-elite backgrounds to enter the hallowed portals of the IITs

On 1 April 2010 17:43, Ravikumar Bhaskaran  wrote:

1. As far as the UG education is concerned it is recognized by even the Americans that IITs are the best and part of the credit is due to the IIT-JEE. The rigiour in Maths, Physics and Chemistry being tested at IIT -JEE is necessary for anyone to do well enough at the IIT UG programme.

2. Aptitude tests will create a greater bias in favour of the urban students than the rural students. In fact at any time a test based on Maths, physics and Chemistry would be a fairer examination giving equal chances for an Urban and a Rural Student.

3. If uniformity in Maths and Science subjects is introduced through out the country, what is the problem basing the entrance test on the same syllabus( but emphasing more on application).

4. IIT Directors may not be able to stand the pressure of HRD Minister. Earlier on whenever a Director has resisted pressures from MHRD, they have been denied a second term.

Ravikumar Bhaskaaran

From: Sanjay Ghadalay IITD
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 04:22:44 +0530
Scrap JEE for common test, Sibal signals to IITs

The great social and intellectual equaliser ..downwards ....learn how to equalise from the indian politician by lowering overall standards to a lowest possible denominator and reference .. from reservations to this ---a giant leap for mediocrity and promotion of incomptence and a blow for meritocracy and excellence ..

From a Failed democracy to now a eventually failed nation ..the decline shall be rapid ..but sure ..

When will this end ??!!!
Time for Karamyogis to rise and take up "arms " !

Sanjay Gadhalay