“ a compromise formula which includes a proposal to take top 20% students based on percentile ranking of respective boards for preparing the merit list”

How meaningless is this solution ?. Higher education in India will become the domain of the school toppers and Children of affluent parents and we wonder why half a million students leave India to study undergraduate courses overseas. Children who will never return to a country that shunned them.

Is this is what we call inclusive in RTE ?.

God Save India

Inclusive education does not mean that everyone must enter, or pass out from, an IIT. It only means that if you wanted to, you could have a shot at it. The child labourer is excluded because she can never dream of entering an IIT; she may absolutely hate IIT, but not trying to join an IIT should be her decision. Even if there is only one IIT train, every child must have access to the platform where the train comes. Of course, not everyone will get on to the train but everyone knows what to do to have a shot at the train. This is called inclusion in education. Everyone must go to school till class 12; those who work hard, and are willing to work harder still, will join an IIT. Others will, by choice, decide not to work that hard and become economists.

Shubhashis Gangopadhyay


All children are born equal and mindless politicians are trying to grade the children and youth of the nation and create a new Brahamanical Caste system in Education, which is pandering to the neo rich who can afford to send their children to elite private schools and Coaching schools.

"HRD Ministry of India wants to build castles of higher education on the bamboo scaffoldings of its schools" ~ Satish Jha

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Thursday, March 22, 2012

40 - Do you have any questions for Ramaswami Committee and other experts on new JEE structure?


From: Ashok Kalbag IITB-PanIIT <askalbag@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 17:33:58 +0530
Subject:  Do you have any questions for Ramaswami Committee and other experts on new JEE structure?

Dr. Ramaswami Committee has recommended a Common Engineering Entrance Examination for entry to Engineering Colleges in the country, including IITs, NITs and other colleges.

It is proposed:

a. To compute normalized percentile score for the school scores (aggregate and subject performance in class X and XII) for each candidate.

b. To conduct National level Screening test comprising of Aptitude section (on the lines of SAT for admission to colleges in US) and Advanced section (on the pattern of JEE). Advanced section will be optional.

Each candidate will therefore have School Performance score, Aptitude test score and Advanced test scores.

Different institutions may create their own merit list based on a combination of these three scores giving different weight to respective score within certain prescribed guidelines.

Question paper for these tests may be setup by experts drawn from IITs, NITs, IIsc etc. And logistics support for conducting the National level screening test may be assigned to a specialist organization.

Do you have any questions for Ramaswami Committee and experts who have contributed to the suggestions made by the committee?

Please tweet your question to @paniitalumni and use the #PanIITJEE in your tweet.

We will compile all these questions and discuss them with stakeholders and experts in a discussion forum. The responses compiled from the discussion forum will be presented to HRD ministry and IIT Community as our common response.

You may read Key Recommendations of Ramaswami Committee report at http://bit.ly/paniit
Thanks and regards,
Yogesh Andlay

See PanIIT Alumni in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDd3frAbzvg
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From: Ram Krishnaswamy-IITM 

Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 22:43:01 +1100



Fellow IITians, 

  • I have attached the PanIIT Pancha Ratna ducument as a PDF file that was presented to the President of India in 2009. I have also extracted text where it is claimed that the entire higher education in India is obsessed with entrance exams and recommends a single National exam as a solution.
  • Today the same PanIIT Organisation that dug a Big Grave for JEEs is shedding crocodile tears and seeking our input on Ramasamy Committees recommendation.
  • If you are fighting to Save JEE the last thing you want to do is trust the self appointed honchos of PanIIT. We did not elect any of these honchos and they do not represent all IITians. They just represent themselves and their Big Egos.
  • We cannot blame Ramasamy committees report as I am sure they were influenced by Mindless PanIITian's Report titled Pancha Ratnas
  • Interesting that this task of trying to get alumni to give suggestions and silence all opposition to ISEET has been cleverly entrusted to Yogesh Andalay.
  • I find it interesting that Ashank Desai and Ashok Kalbag do not wish to get their hands dirty. It is not the current Pan IIT India Chairman reaching out either.
  • This whole thing stinks, worse that the sewer. PanIITs self assumed right to represent all Alumni from All IITs needs to be challenged legally sooner the better.
  • Rambo


    Extracts from PanIIT Pancha Ratna's" Five Actions to reform higher education in India
  • I really appreciate the efforts put in by the team under the leadership of Vijay Thadani to prepare a comprehensive report. In particular, would like to thank Ashok Kalbag, Ashok Saxena, Krishna Vedula, M P Ravindra, Nitish Thakor, Pradeep Gupta, Ramakrishna (Ram) Akella, S N Zindal, and Vivek Singhal, who have contributed to this document. I am also grateful to Parimal Mandke, Adeesh Sharma and Maitreyee Mukherjee for their painstaking efforts in giving a final shape to this document. We strongly believe that adoption of PanIIT Panch Ratnas will truly propel Indian higher education to a level where it will set the global benchmark. 
    Ashank Desai Chairman, PanIIT Alumni India July 14, 2009 
  • The entire higher education system is obsessed with entrance examinations. There are a multitude of entrance examinations for admission into colleges,ranging from national and state examinations, to those conducted by individual institutes. Preparation in the form of coaching for the entrance examinations has created a burgeoning Rs 8,000 crore industry[10]. 

    1.2 Abolish Multiple Entrance Examinations    
    1. 1.2.1  Introduce one National University Entrance Examination (NUEE) system. Such a system would test not only for facts and fundamentals but also for other qualities and qualifications, including creativity, scholarship, problem solving ability and leadership. Such a system would ensure credibility of the selection process for a diverse student applicant pool. For specialized courses, such as Engineering and Medicine, introduce an advanced examination after NUEE to test special skills and knowledge.
      1.2.2  Allow institutions the flexibility to decide on a transparent criterion, in addition to NUEE, they would like to introduce in their admission policy. For example, the criteria could be judging on the basis of performance in classes X and XII, involvement in extra-curricular activities such as sports, fine and performing arts, social service and community activities.
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From: Binay Jain IITK 

Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 21:02:04 +0800 (SGT)



Dear Rambo,

I agree with you. If the mushrooming coaching classes are a deterrent,  then why international exams like GRE, TOEFL, GMAT etc have not been challenged. 



These exams are still continuing inspite of mushrooming coaching schools worldwide, which are on a much larger scale than our IITJEE. Therefore the proposal to change this system only portrays the intellectual bankruptcy of the decision makers, as well as the guys in PANIIT. 

Actually the problem lies some where else with the IITs not able to achieve the goals for which they were originally created. In this IITJEE is being made the scapegoat.

Binay
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