“ a compromise formula which includes a proposal to take top 20% students based on percentile ranking of respective boards for preparing the merit list”

How meaningless is this solution ?. Higher education in India will become the domain of the school toppers and Children of affluent parents and we wonder why half a million students leave India to study undergraduate courses overseas. Children who will never return to a country that shunned them.

Is this is what we call inclusive in RTE ?.

God Save India

Inclusive education does not mean that everyone must enter, or pass out from, an IIT. It only means that if you wanted to, you could have a shot at it. The child labourer is excluded because she can never dream of entering an IIT; she may absolutely hate IIT, but not trying to join an IIT should be her decision. Even if there is only one IIT train, every child must have access to the platform where the train comes. Of course, not everyone will get on to the train but everyone knows what to do to have a shot at the train. This is called inclusion in education. Everyone must go to school till class 12; those who work hard, and are willing to work harder still, will join an IIT. Others will, by choice, decide not to work that hard and become economists.

Shubhashis Gangopadhyay

All children are born equal and mindless politicians are trying to grade the children and youth of the nation and create a new Brahamanical Caste system in Education, which is pandering to the neo rich who can afford to send their children to elite private schools and Coaching schools.

"HRD Ministry of India wants to build castles of higher education on the bamboo scaffoldings of its schools" ~ Satish Jha

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35 - IIT reforms committee to submit report by year-end

IIT reforms committee to submit report by year-end

Kalpana Pathak, Mumbai    25 October 2010
To prepare a road map to fund quality research, attract international faculty.

The Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) reforms committee will submit its report to the Ministry of Human Resource Development (MHRD) by December — eight months behind the April, 2010 deadline

The five-member panel, which was constituted in Ocotber 2009 and is headed by Atomic Energy Commission’s former chairman Anil Kakodkar, is expected to outline the broad areas of reforms required to make the elite institutions global brands. 

“We are going through the consultative process not only among ourselves but also with other stakeholders. That is taking time. We are targeting this year-end to submit the report to MHRD,” Kakodar told Business Standard on the sidelines of the National Summit on Quality in Education by Confederation of Indian Industry (CII) in Mumbai.

The committee will also come up with the vision document 2020 for the IITs. The document would suggest measures on how the IITs can collaborate with the private sector in IT, Biotech and other emerging areas.

At present, the IITs are focusing on under-graduate education. The committee would suggest how more and more students could be encouraged to take up research at the IITs and prepare a road map to attract quality faculty.

“On one side there is the question of access and on the other side of finding resources. Higher education at the level of IITs does cost more but we will have to find resources to increase the number of engineers and technologists in large numbers. While setting up of more IITs could be a solution, we need to find out what more can be done with the existing IITs,” he said.

IIT directors said their expectations from the committee are high. “The IITs are treated like some government department where they have to get clearance for every little thing from the ministry. I am hoping that the committee will at least address the issue of administrative autonomy where we don't have to seek permission from the ministry of finance for clearance of petty things like travel and dearness allowances or hiring of non-faculty staff. We need some decision making freedom here,” said an IIT Director on the condition of anonymity.

Another director said, “We are waiting to see what kind of autonomy and governance issues they would address. We want the committee to give us a future road map for IITs to be world class institutions.”

A proper fee structure is another area that the IITs want the committee to look into. According to the authorities, the institutions are subsidising engineering education around Rs 16 lakh. For the four-year BTech programme, the IITs charge Rs 2 lakh. IIT-Kanpur had earlier suggested increasing the fee to Rs 4 lakh per annum — that would translate into Rs 18 lakh for the four-year programme.

However, IIT authorities are divided on hiking the fees because it would impact students from the financially weaker section of the society.

“The profile of students coming to IITs has changed over the years. Students from upper middle class at IITs are on a decline and students from less advantaged background are increasing. It is very difficult for students to get a loans. If the IITs hike the fee to cover costs, the students will have to shell out much more. How can we expect students from poor families to afford the hike?” Devang Khakhar, director, IIT Bombay, had told Business Standard in an earlier interview.

“To hike the fee, we have to put in a support system like the proposed National Education Finance Corporation (NEFC) so that students can benefit from it,” he had said.

NEFC would ensure that a higher tuition fee does not disadvantage students who are from the financially weaker section.
From: balachandran

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:00:17 +0530

Hi, I am enclosing below a report that appeared in Business Standard dated 25 October 2010.

This report, and the changes (or stagnancy) it will result in, should be of deep concern to all of us alumni. I do not know whether as individuals, or as alumni groups, we have had a chance to participate, or actually participated, in the deliberations.

Can someone, particularly at the PanIIT level, advise us?
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Ram K. Swamy  wrote:

let us ask IIT Alumi at large vision, suggestions and recommendations for IIT’s 2020 (which is not far off) . Let us have an open discussion and hope something of value comes out of it that can be passed on to Dr. Anil Kakodkar who is heading this reforms committee..

Can we start this off with a basic SWOT analysis of IITs as they stand.. You can head this as you have brought this topic to our attention

I was truly happy and excited about Ajee Kamath’s ( NIT Durgapur) RVCR Engine that could revolutionise the Automobile Industries world wide and if IITs are restructured to attract IIT B Techs to stay on and do research we can have many more such inventions in India.. Right now in “most cases” ( there will be exceptions ) Research in IITs is being done to get a PhD and not for the passion of true research

From: Gajendra Sidana IITM 

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:44:19 +0300

It is really disheartening that all the times IITs have to dance to the tunes of HRD. I mean who the hell is HRD to set up a panel to create a vision for IITs and dictate them what to do. Can't we have fully autonomous institutes on the lines of MITs of the world that chalks out what it needs to do to figure in the top universities in the world. I think IITs are hugely popular as of now because of lack of awareness of HRD about IITs in the past. HRD's indifference became a boon for IITs but now as HRD knows if it has to attract attention towards them, IITs & IIMs are a good way to let the people know that HRD exists.

From: Ram Krishnaswamy-IITM 
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:11:34 +1100

Gajendra 100% of funding for IITs comes from HRD... It was only after alumni started thumping their chests in 2002 and created PanIIT that HRD Ministers became aware that they coud control these institutions by appointing Directors and making them puppets on strings.. There is no way IITs will have autonomy restored like it used to be... It was HRD Minister Murali Manohar Joshy who got treated badly by some IITians  at PanIIT in USA and he came back at IITs with a vengeance.. Now even though ministers change the real culprits are te IAS Babus in HRD  who hate IITians... After all who makes the final decision in HRD ? It is the secretaries and joint secretaries

From: Gajendra Sidana IITM 
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 10:43:46 +0300


Funding is only a matter of time. Allow IITs to be run like professional bodies that can attract best faculty (by paying better, don't expect top notch faculty to stay for a small pay when they can get huge paycheques elsewhere) and students then lets see how can a rising economy itself can take care of the funding. 

Establish a system that supports merit than political compulsions driven by caste, class etc. Needless to mention, a major economy that is booming at 8% per year can easily support funding of IITs by supporting meaningful research, consulting etc. Trust me, I know several Indian companies who are paying millions of dollars to consulting firms. They pay in the range of 150-400 USD/hr and I am pretty sure if IITs can just get a fraction of that work, they can easily move towards becoming more sustatainable.