“ a compromise formula which includes a proposal to take top 20% students based on percentile ranking of respective boards for preparing the merit list”

How meaningless is this solution ?. Higher education in India will become the domain of the school toppers and Children of affluent parents and we wonder why half a million students leave India to study undergraduate courses overseas. Children who will never return to a country that shunned them.

Is this is what we call inclusive in RTE ?.

God Save India

Inclusive education does not mean that everyone must enter, or pass out from, an IIT. It only means that if you wanted to, you could have a shot at it. The child labourer is excluded because she can never dream of entering an IIT; she may absolutely hate IIT, but not trying to join an IIT should be her decision. Even if there is only one IIT train, every child must have access to the platform where the train comes. Of course, not everyone will get on to the train but everyone knows what to do to have a shot at the train. This is called inclusion in education. Everyone must go to school till class 12; those who work hard, and are willing to work harder still, will join an IIT. Others will, by choice, decide not to work that hard and become economists.

Shubhashis Gangopadhyay

All children are born equal and mindless politicians are trying to grade the children and youth of the nation and create a new Brahamanical Caste system in Education, which is pandering to the neo rich who can afford to send their children to elite private schools and Coaching schools.

"HRD Ministry of India wants to build castles of higher education on the bamboo scaffoldings of its schools" ~ Satish Jha

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Monday, March 12, 2012

17 - Centre’s plan to replace JEE, AIEEE raises eyebrows - Daily Pioneer


Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:16
PNS | New Delhi

HRD Ministry's proposed move to conduct the Indian Science Engineering Eligibility Test (ISEET) from 2013, as a successor to the Indian Institute of Technology-Joint Entrance Exam (JEE) and All India Engineering Entrance Exam (AIEEE) has stirred up apprehensions amongst the experts and certain State Governments.

However, all eyes are on the forthcoming conference of State Education Ministers which is likely to take place on February 22.

From:  Ram Krishnaswamy
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:11 PM

Interesting it raises only eye brows. Should raise peoples blood pressures.
Ramasamies who come out with such recommendations are people who failed to succeed in IIT JEE. What would they know ?
From: Somnath Bharti
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 2:18 PM
Yesterday, there was a candle light protest march at IITD campus against the Sibal’s move. Tomorrow, we will be meeting the minister voicing our concerns. I invite students, faculty members and alumni from all IITs to join in the meeting tomorrow at Sibal’s residence between 9-10 AM.

Somnath Bharti, Advocate
Supreme Court of India and Delhi High Court
dear somnath
wd you like these concerns be also raised from other locations as well..

From: Ramachandran Balakrishna IITM 

Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:26:04 -0500

I find it hilarious that some state boards are arguing their local exams are harder than those by CBSE and ICSE. During my time (mid 1990s), the state exams at least in Tamilnadu would reproduce the exact math problems found in their textbooks; even the numbers would be the same.

The state engineering college exams would also mooch off the same problems. When I wrote the Anna University Biotech exam, the entire math paper was multiple choice... with no extra sheets of paper to even attempt to work out the answers to partial differential equations and the like. And the guy sitting next to me was trying to copy my selections, even though he got a different question paper code (random re-ordering of questions)!

But to show the other side of the coin, a guy in my CBSE batch failed to count 2 as a prime number in a probability question in the XII board exam. He got 100%.

Regarding the scale differences across states: BITS Pilani has been normalizing various state board scores for decades. Why is this a concern all of a sudden?


From: Selvaraj Israel-IITM
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:55:43 +0530

It is best that the IITs keep their examinations under their own control. IITs can if they wish to, decide that only 40% weightage will be given to JEE and 60% to class 12 results. If they wish, they can do away with JEE and depend on class 12 results. They can if they wish to, revert back to JEE. The point is, they should take the decision, not someone else.

The IITs must decide what is best for the nation and act in the national interest. As a premier institution they must have full autonomy to do so.


From: Chandra Jain
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 21:09:03 +0530

Dear Somnath,

This has come too suddenly & without any foreword/preface/warning.

I hope we have done the required preparation & have the mandate to present the case forcefully.
I believe in the cause & look at it as a last-ditch effort for a worthy cause - to save the last vistage of integrity & respectability that any institution in this country can command & is beyond manipulation by vested interests.

Anyway, I will join you tomorrow morning at Sibal's residence since you already seem to have an appointment fixed.
Chandra k Jain
From: Sachin Mittal
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:49:45 +0530

As long as government funds IITs, pays for professors salary, there should not be full autonomy.
Exam should definitely move out of clutches of IIT be a national level test where every engineering college in India can accept the scores.

Now what % of weightage is attached to that central test score, to 12 board, 10th board, extra curricular activities etc etc. (with obviously having some uniformity and normalization) should depend upon a collective and consensus decision.