ALL INDIA IIT FACULTY ASSOCIATION OPPOSES ENTRANCE EXAM CHANGES THAT HRD MINSITRY IS TRYING TO IMPOSE ON IITS.. TIME FOR IIT ALUMNI FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD TO UNITE AND OPPOSE THIS MOVE WITH ALL OUR MIGHT.
“ a compromise formula which includes a proposal to take top 20% students based on percentile ranking of respective boards for preparing the merit list”
How meaningless is this solution ?. Higher education in India will become the domain of the school toppers and Children of affluent parents and we wonder why half a million students leave India to study undergraduate courses overseas. Children who will never return to a country that shunned them.
Is this is what we call inclusive in RTE ?.
God Save India
Inclusive education does not mean that everyone must enter, or pass out from, an IIT. It only means that if you wanted to, you could have a shot at it. The child labourer is excluded because she can never dream of entering an IIT; she may absolutely hate IIT, but not trying to join an IIT should be her decision. Even if there is only one IIT train, every child must have access to the platform where the train comes. Of course, not everyone will get on to the train but everyone knows what to do to have a shot at the train. This is called inclusion in education. Everyone must go to school till class 12; those who work hard, and are willing to work harder still, will join an IIT. Others will, by choice, decide not to work that hard and become economists.
Shubhashis Gangopadhyay
All children are born equal and mindless politicians are trying to grade the children and youth of the nation and create a new Brahamanical Caste system in Education, which is pandering to the neo rich who can afford to send their children to elite private schools and Coaching schools.
"HRD Ministry of India wants to build castles of higher education on the bamboo scaffoldings of its schools" ~ Satish Jha
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Wednesday, June 27, 2012
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377 - IITs Buckle - Kapil Sibal Wins - Just off the Press - 27th June 2012
Business Standard - 7 minutes ago
PTI / New Delhi June 27, 2012, 18:35 The row between government and IITs over entrance test was resolved today with a compromise agreement being reached over holding the common exams from next year. Under the new format, an advance test will be ...
Council meeting: Top 20 percentile students across 40 boards to be eligible to
Economic Times - 9 minutes ago
NEW DELHI: In a bid to break the impasse over Common Entrance Test (CET) for engineering colleges in the country replacing IIT JEE, the IIT Council today decided that top 20 percentile from every board would be eligible to appear for the JEE Main exam.
IIT-CET row: Compromise formula reached
Zee News - 14 minutes ago
New Delhi: A consensus between the government and IITs over Common Entrance Test (CET) has reached on Wednesday. Ahead of their meeting with Sibal later today, IIT directors met on Wednesday and reportedly agreed at the compromise formula floated by ...
Kapil Sibal skips IIT council meet
Times of India - 48 minutes ago
NEW DELHI: Human resource development minister Kapil Sibal on Wednesday skipped the meeting of IIT Council convened by him to discuss the proposed common entrance test after opposition from some of the premier engineering institutions.
New IIT-JEE formula: only top 20 percent can write exam
Firstpost - 55 minutes ago
by FP Staff 5 mins ago Despite Union Minister Kapil Sibal not attending the the meeting of the IIT Council held today, the directors of the IITs have reportedly decided on a compromise formula under which only the top 20 percent of students from each ...
Govt-IITs row ends; new JEE format from 2013
IBNLive.com - 59 minutes ago
New Delhi: The prestigious Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) have agreed on a compromise formula on the common entrance exam for undergraduate courses after several weeks of face off with the Central Government, particularly HRD Minister Kapil ...
IIT exam: New format decided, will begin next year
NDTV - 1 hour ago
New Delhi: For students aching to know what it will take to get into IIT, there's finally closure. The IIT council has decided that starting next year, students who score in the top 20% of their board exams will take the main or multiple-choice exam.
Government, IIT reach compromise over new entrance exam format
NDTV - 1 hour ago
New Delhi: A compromise formula on the new controversial exam formula has been worked out between the government and the Indian Institutes of Technology at an IIT council meeting today regarding. According to reports, the new format may be introduced ...
Kapil Sibal - IIT reach a compromise: Top 5 developments
NDTV - 1 hour ago
New Delhi: Faced with immense protests from the IIT faculty, Mr Kapil Sibal was to meet the IIT council today. But Mr Sibal skipped the meeting that was actually convened after two IITs - Kanpur and Delhi - rejected his 'one nation, one test' formula ...
Kapil Sibal skips key meeting with IIT directors
NDTV - 2 hours ago
New Delhi: A revolt by the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) against the new exam formula fixed by Human Resource Development (HRD) Minister Kapil Sibal, to decide who gets into India's most prestigious engineering colleges, was discussed ...
Kapil Sibal skips IITs-HRD Ministry meet
IBNLive.com - 2 hours ago
New Delhi: HRD Minister Kapil Sibal on Wednesday skipped the meeting with IIT Council to resolve the common entrance exam controversy even as an IIT Faculty Federation member claimed that a compromise formula has been worked out.
Compromise formula worked out for IIT exam
IBNLive.com - 3 hours ago
New Delhi: The IITs and the HRD Ministry have agreed to a compromise formula over the joint entrance test row. IIT Faculty Federation member, Professor SK Das told CNN-IBN they have proposed that top 20 per cent students of each board and advanced exam ...
The IIT and Kapil Sibal compromise formula: No class 12 board marks to be ...
NDTV - 4 hours ago
New Delhi: Faced with immense protests from the IIT faculty, Mr Kapil Sibal is meeting the IIT council today. This meeting was convened after two IITs - Kanpur and Delhi - rejected his 'one nation, one test' formula and decided to hold their own test.
Entrance exam row: IIT Council to meet today; will the impasse end?
NDTV - 4 hours ago
New Delhi: A revolt by IITs against the new exam to decide who gets into India's most prestigious engineering colleges will be discussed threadbare today at a meeting of the IIT Council. The Council, which includes Directors of different IIT branches, ...
IITs to discuss compromise formula
Daily News & Analysis - 6 hours ago
By Pallavi Smart | Place: Mumbai | Agency: DNA Even as faculties of IITs are seen repeatedly shooting down the MHRD's proposal of JEE reforms, the alternative discussed at the Joint Admission Board (JAB) meeting on Saturday seems to be receiving ...
Times of India - 6 hours ago
NEW DELHI: Union human resource and development (HRD) minister Kapil Sibal will meet the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) directors here on Wednesday to bring an end to the ongoing row over conducting a common entrance exam, according to TV reports ...
HRD ministry to meet IIT Council to break impasse over new entrance pattern
India Today - 7 hours ago
After IIT Delhi followed Kanpur's way against the proposed common entrance test, the Human Resource Development Ministry called a meeting of the IIT Council to discuss the situation. The meeting to be chaired by Kapil Sibal will be held on Wednesday.
IITs, Govt likely to agree on a compromise formula
IBNLive.com - 9 hours ago
New Delhi: After weeks of uncertainty, the IIT admission row could be resolved on Wednesday. The IIT Council members will meet HRD ministry officials on Wednesday to try and resolve the issue. -Letting only the top 20 percentile of each board appear ...
No common ground in sight regarding IIT admissions
Economic Times - 14 hours ago
NEW DELHI: HRD minister and IIT Council chairman Kapil Sibal is caught in a tight spot. If the government thought that reworking its "one nation, one examination" proposal to accommodate the concerns of protesting IIT faculty would resolve the ...
IIT-Kharagpur in 'wait and watch mode' over common test
Times of India - 16 hours ago
KOLKATA: The final decision regarding the Union HRD minister Kapil Sibal's proposal to hold a common entrance test for the IITs is likely to be taken on Wednesday. The directors of all the 15 IITs have already reached Delhi to participate in the IIT ...
IIT-Kharagpur pushes for 30% cut-off, status quo for now
Hindustan Times - 17 hours ago
Ahead of the IIT council meet on June 27, the extended executive committee of the IIT-Kharagpur Teacher's Association met on Monday and passed a resolution on several points relating to the new JEE pattern. The four-point resolution stated that the ...
Before key meet, IIT head questions new exam plan
Hindustan Times - 17 hours ago
Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) Guwahati director Gautam Barua has questioned a compromise proposal on IIT admission reforms ahead of a key meet aimed at hammering out a consensus between the government and protesting faculty.
Govt, IIT row over entrance test resolved
Indian Express - 57 seconds ago
The row between government and IITs over entrance test was resolved on Wednesday with a compromise agreement being reached over holding the common exams from next year. Under the new format, an advance test will be conducted and the elite educational ...
IITs, HRD ministry strike a deal; new entrance test format from 2013
India Today - 3 minutes ago
The Union human resources development (HRD) ministry and the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) reached a compromise on the entrance exam controversy, with the chairman of standing council of IIT Council, MM Sharma, announcing the new admission ...
IIT-CET row: Compromise formula reached
Zee News - 5 minutes ago
New Delhi: A consensus between the government and IITs over Common Entrance Test (CET) has reached on Wednesday. Ahead of their meeting with Sibal later today, IIT directors met on Wednesday and reportedly agreed at the compromise formula floated by ...
Kapil Sibal skips IIT council meet
Times of India - 38 minutes ago
NEW DELHI: Human resource development minister Kapil Sibal on Wednesday skipped the meeting of IIT Council convened by him to discuss the proposed common entrance test after opposition from some of the premier engineering institutions.
New IIT-JEE formula: only top 20 percent can write exam
Firstpost - 46 minutes ago
by FP Staff 5 mins ago Despite Union Minister Kapil Sibal not attending the the meeting of the IIT Council held today, the directors of the IITs have reportedly decided on a compromise formula under which only the top 20 percent of students from each ...
Govt-IITs row ends; new JEE format from 2013
IBNLive.com - 49 minutes ago
New Delhi: The prestigious Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) have agreed on a compromise formula on the common entrance exam for undergraduate courses after several weeks of face off with the Central Government, particularly HRD Minister Kapil ...
IIT exam: New format decided, will begin next year
NDTV - 1 hour ago
New Delhi: For students aching to know what it will take to get into IIT, there's finally closure. The IIT council has decided that starting next year, students who score in the top 20% of their board exams will take the main or multiple-choice exam.
Government, IIT reach compromise over new entrance exam format
NDTV - 1 hour ago
New Delhi: A compromise formula on the new controversial exam formula has been worked out between the government and the Indian Institutes of Technology at an IIT council meeting today regarding. According to reports, the new format may be introduced ...
Kapil Sibal - IIT reach a compromise: Top 5 developments
NDTV - 1 hour ago
New Delhi: Faced with immense protests from the IIT faculty, Mr Kapil Sibal was to meet the IIT council today. But Mr Sibal skipped the meeting that was actually convened after two IITs - Kanpur and Delhi - rejected his 'one nation, one test' formula ...
Kapil Sibal skips key meeting with IIT directors
NDTV - 2 hours ago
New Delhi: A revolt by the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) against the new exam formula fixed by Human Resource Development (HRD) Minister Kapil Sibal, to decide who gets into India's most prestigious engineering colleges, was discussed ...
Kapil Sibal skips IITs-HRD Ministry meet
IBNLive.com - 2 hours ago
Compromise formula worked out for IIT exam
IBNLive.com - 3 hours ago
New Delhi: The IITs and the HRD Ministry have agreed to a compromise formula over the joint entrance test row. IIT Faculty Federation member, Professor SK Das told CNN-IBN they have proposed that top 20 per cent students of each board and advanced exam ...
The IIT and Kapil Sibal compromise formula: No class 12 board marks to be ...
NDTV - 4 hours ago
New Delhi: Faced with immense protests from the IIT faculty, Mr Kapil Sibal is meeting the IIT council today. This meeting was convened after two IITs - Kanpur and Delhi - rejected his 'one nation, one test' formula and decided to hold their own test.
Entrance exam row: IIT Council to meet today; will the impasse end?
NDTV - 4 hours ago
New Delhi: A revolt by IITs against the new exam to decide who gets into India's most prestigious engineering colleges will be discussed threadbare today at a meeting of the IIT Council. The Council, which includes Directors of different IIT branches, ...
IITs to discuss compromise formula
Daily News & Analysis - 6 hours ago
By Pallavi Smart | Place: Mumbai | Agency: DNA Even as faculties of IITs are seen repeatedly shooting down the MHRD's proposal of JEE reforms, the alternative discussed at the Joint Admission Board (JAB) meeting on Saturday seems to be receiving ...
Common entrance test: Sibal to meet IIT directors today
Times of India - 6 hours ago
NEW DELHI: Union human resource and development (HRD) minister Kapil Sibal will meet the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) directors here on Wednesday to bring an end to the ongoing row over conducting a common entrance exam, according to TV reports ...
HRD ministry to meet IIT Council to break impasse over new entrance pattern
India Today - 7 hours ago
IITs, Govt likely to agree on a compromise formula
IBNLive.com - 9 hours ago
New Delhi: After weeks of uncertainty, the IIT admission row could be resolved on Wednesday. The IIT Council members will meet HRD ministry officials on Wednesday to try and resolve the issue. -Letting only the top 20 percentile of each board appear ...
No common ground in sight regarding IIT admissions
Economic Times - 14 hours ago
NEW DELHI: HRD minister and IIT Council chairman Kapil Sibal is caught in a tight spot. If the government thought that reworking its "one nation, one examination" proposal to accommodate the concerns of protesting IIT faculty would resolve the ...
IIT-Kharagpur in 'wait and watch mode' over common test
Times of India - 16 hours ago
KOLKATA: The final decision regarding the Union HRD minister Kapil Sibal's proposal to hold a common entrance test for the IITs is likely to be taken on Wednesday. The directors of all the 15 IITs have already reached Delhi to participate in the IIT ...
IIT-Kharagpur pushes for 30% cut-off, status quo for now
Hindustan Times - 17 hours ago
Ahead of the IIT council meet on June 27, the extended executive committee of the IIT-Kharagpur Teacher's Association met on Monday and passed a resolution on several points relating to the new JEE pattern. The four-point resolution stated that the ...
Before key meet, IIT head questions new exam plan
Hindustan Times - 17 hours ago
Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) Guwahati director Gautam Barua has questioned a compromise proposal on IIT admission reforms ahead of a key meet aimed at hammering out a consensus between the government and protesting faculty.
Sibal to meet IIT directors tomorrow to resolve entrance exam
IBNLive.com - Jun 26, 2012
PTI | 04:06 PM,Jun 26,2012 row New Delhi, June 26 (PTI) HRD Minister Kapil Sibal will meet IIT directors tomorrow to resolve the common entrance exam row as the government proposal is being resisted by some of the IITs. Sibal will chair the meeting of ...
Kapil Sibal to meet IIT directors tomorrow
Economic Times - Jun 26, 2012
NEW DELHI: HRD Minister Kapil Sibal will meet IIT directors tomorrow to resolve the common entrance exam row as the government proposal is being resisted by some of the IITs. Sibal will chair the meeting of the IIT council, the highest decision making ...
Government ready to soften stand to end IIT stalemate
Economic Times - Jun 25, 2012
NEW DELHI: Keen to end the standoff with the IIT faculty over the common entrance examination, the government has indicated it is willing to rework its "one nation, one examination" proposal to address their concerns over the institutes' excellence.
Deemed varsities to adopt single entrance test for undergraduate engineering ...
Times of India - Jun 25, 2012
NEW DELHI: Deemed universities are likely to adopt the single entrance test for undergraduate engineering programmes. Incidentally, the format of a common test had met with opposition from some sections in the Indian Institutes of Technology.
Deemed varsities briefed
The Hindu - Jun 25, 2012
Even as the government is struggling to address the issues raised by the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) with regard to the joint entrance examination for engineering undergraduate courses, Human Resource Development Minister Kapil Sibal, ...
Centre gives deemed universities CET freedom
Times of India - Jun 25, 2012
CHENNAI: The Union ministry of human resources development on Monday said all deemed universities across the country will be given the option of admitting students to graduate courses based on the Centre's proposed common entrance test (CET) or their ...
Common entrance: Deemed varsities give 'in-principle' approval
Zee News - Jun 25, 2012
New Delhi: Deemed universities are also poised to adopt the single entrance test for undergraduate engineering programmes as they have given their "in-principle" approval to the format of examination proposed for the elite technical institutes of the ...
Sibal to meet deemed universities' representatives
IBNLive.com - Jun 24, 2012
New Delhi: After facing opposition from the IITs, HRD Minister Kapil Sibal is trying to seek support from deemed universities on his controversial common entrance test. Sibal will meet the representatives of 130 universities on Monday to get them on ...
376 - Latest News on IIT JEE - 27th June 2012
NDTV - 32 minutes ago
New Delhi: The Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) Council, headed by Human Resource Development Minister Kapil Sibal, will meet in New Delhi today with the hope of resolving the impasse over the new entrance exam format. The union minister called ...
Sibal to meet IIT directors today to resolve entrance exam row
Hindustan Times - 1 hour ago
HRD minister Kapil Sibal will meet IIT directors on Wednesday to resolve the common entrance exam row as the government proposal is being resisted by some of the IITs. Sibal will chair the meeting of the IIT council, the highest decision making body of ...
IITs, Govt likely to agree on a compromise formula
IBNLive.com - 1 hour ago
New Delhi: After weeks of uncertainty, the IIT admission row could be resolved on Wednesday. The IIT Council members will meet HRD ministry officials on Wednesday to try and resolve the issue. -Letting only the top 20 percentile of each board appear ...
No common ground in sight regarding IIT admissions
Economic Times - 5 hours ago
NEW DELHI: HRD minister and IIT Council chairman Kapil Sibal is caught in a tight spot. If the government thought that reworking its "one nation, one examination" proposal to accommodate the concerns of protesting IIT faculty would resolve the ...
IIT-Kharagpur in 'wait and watch mode' over common test
Times of India - 7 hours ago
KOLKATA: The final decision regarding the Union HRD minister Kapil Sibal's proposal to hold a common entrance test for the IITs is likely to be taken on Wednesday. The directors of all the 15 IITs have already reached Delhi to participate in the IIT ...
IIT-Kharagpur pushes for 30% cut-off, status quo for now
Hindustan Times - 9 hours ago
Ahead of the IIT council meet on June 27, the extended executive committee of the IIT-Kharagpur Teacher's Association met on Monday and passed a resolution on several points relating to the new JEE pattern. The four-point resolution stated that the ...
Before key meet, IIT head questions new exam plan
Hindustan Times - 9 hours ago
Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) Guwahati director Gautam Barua has questioned a compromise proposal on IIT admission reforms ahead of a key meet aimed at hammering out a consensus between the government and protesting faculty.
At IIT-Bombay, coveted courses don't ensure happiness: Study
Economic Times - 21 hours ago
MUMBAI: Happiness does not have anything to do with getting into the most-sought after courses in IITs. Instead , it may have an inverse relationship. A survey conducted at the Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay (IIT-B ) on the happiness quotient of ...
Government ready to soften stand to end IIT stalemate
Economic Times - Jun 25, 2012
NEW DELHI: Keen to end the standoff with the IIT faculty over the common entrance examination, the government has indicated it is willing to rework its "one nation, one examination" proposal to address their concerns over the institutes' excellence.
Yes Minister! You've got it right
The Hindu - Jun 25, 2012
After visiting New Delhi in the mid-1970s, the editor of an important American newspaper, the story goes, wrote that only in two places are Indians not permitted to have a drink at a five-star hotel — South Africa, and India! Sadly, some 40 years later ...
Why have CET when nothing is common between IITs and the rest?
Daily News & Analysis - Jun 24, 2012
The most compelling argument against the proposed Common Entrance Test to all engineering institutions like the Indian Institutes of Technology, the Indian Institutes of Information Technology and the National Institutes of Technology is that the ...
Ahead of Council meet,IIT faculty body says amicable solution in sight
Indian Express - Jun 24, 2012
Ahead of the crucial IIT Council meeting that could end the stalemate between IITs and the Ministry of Human Resource Development (MHRD) over the new test format and decide the fate of lakhs of students, the All India IIT Faculty Federation (AIIITFF) ...
IIT admission row: Address the real problem
Economic Times - Jun 24, 2012
The IIT student-selection imbroglio has the familiar confusion on what the real problem issues are. Understandable, because the problem is complex and the solution not obvious because of a sensitive public good that has many stakeholders, ...
Single engineering exam chaos fuels coaching class rush
Times of India - Jun 24, 2012
MUMBAI: With the board exams just eight months away, parents are paying extra money to coaching classes to prepare their children for the upcoming board exams too, defying the purpose of a common entrance test for admissions to centrally funded ...
New formula pacifies IIT faculty members
Business Standard - Jun 24, 2012
A compromise offer worked out by the Joint Admission Board (JAB) for admission to the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) has pacified agitating members of the All India IIT Faculty Federation (AIIITFF). Even so, the problem of autonomy of the IITs ...
IITs versus Kapil Sibal
Times Now.tv - 1 hour ago
As the IIT entrance exam row intensifies, HRD minister Kapil Sibal is to meet the IIT council on Wednesday (June 27), but with as many as three IIT Senates rejecting Sibal's 'one Nation, one exam' proposal, will Kapil Sibal manage to find a way to ...
Tough IIT test for Sibal
Calcutta Telegraph - 5 hours ago
New Delhi, June 26: Human resource development minister Kapil Sibal would be bracing for a tough session tomorrow when he tries to hammer out a solution on a proposed single entrance two-tier exam for aspiring engineers. IIT faculty, directors and ...
Kapil Sibal to meet IIT directors today
Deccan Herald - 10 hours ago
Union Human Resources Development Minister Kapil Sibal will chair the IIT Council meeting on Wednesday to end the impasse over the common entrance test. The meet will deliberate on a resolution adopted by the IIT Joint Admission Board (JAB,) which met ...
IIT-Delhi: Disabled student challenges IIT's rejection in court
Indian Colleges - Jun 25, 2012
The Delhi High Court issued a notice to the Indian Institute of Technology-Delhi (IIT-D) for denying admission to a student under the handicapped category on the ground that his disability was less than 40 percent. Justice Pratibha Rani sought the ...
IIT to help prepare drainage master plan
Deccan Herald - Jun 25, 2012
The state cabinet on Monday gave its nod for appointing Indian Institute of Technology, Delhi, as a consultant to prepare the drainage master plan for the Capital. The cabinet also decided to take a holistic approach while preparing the master plan.
Entry confusion takes toll on students
Calcutta Telegraph - Jun 25, 2012
New Delhi, June 25: Praveen Kumar, an IIT aspirant from Jammu, has the JEE to crack next year but his deep anxiety is affecting his preparations. Praveen, who cleared his Class XII boards with 70 per cent marks this year, arrived in Delhi a few months ...
One-test relief plan for NITs
Calcutta Telegraph - Jun 25, 2012
New Delhi, June 25: Students seeking admission to centrally funded tech schools other than the IITs will have to take just one entrance test rather than two if a meeting chaired by Kapil Sibal on Wednesday accepts the
375 - One-test relief plan for NITs - Meet to decide if board marks weightage for IITs will stay
BASANT KUMAR MOHANTY
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New Delhi, June 25: Students seeking admission to centrally funded tech schools other than the IITs will have to take just one entrance test rather than two if a meeting chaired by Kapil Sibal on Wednesday accepts the proposal.
The idea is part of a set of suggestions before the IIT Council, headed by the human resource development minister, that seeks to resolve the dispute over purported admission reforms that have been opposed by IIT faculty.
The key proposal is to scrap the planned weightage to candidates’ Class XII board marks in IIT admission — the sticking point with the faculty. (See chart)
Another suggestion is that students vying for seats in the National Institutes of Technology (NITs) or the Indian Institutes of Information Technology (IIITs) but not the IITs be made to take only the JEE Main.
Under the proposal, only IIT aspirants would have to take both the JEE Main and the JEE Advanced.
If approved, the move will bring relief to at least seven lakh students. Some five lakh students now take the IIT-JEE while 12 lakh appear in the All India Engineering Entrance Examination for the 15,000 seats in all the other centrally funded tech schools, which include 30 NITs, four IIITs and a few other institutes.
From next year, Sibal’s ministry plans to merge the two exams into a combined JEE for admission to all centrally funded technical institutes. The new JEE is to have two parts: Main and Advanced.
Under the originally mooted reforms, decided by the IIT Council on May 28, all candidates were to take both exams. The change, if carried out, will please the IIT faculty a section of which was against making both rounds of the exam mandatory for those not seeking IIT seats.
Under the May 28 reforms, both the Main and the Advanced were to be held on the same day, which the faculty argued would be too stressful for the students. On Wednesday, the IIT Council will consider letting the IITs hold the JEE Advanced on a later date of their choosing.
The government will ask the IITs to align the JEE Advanced syllabus with that of the JEE Main so that the tougher second-round exam can in the long run be done away with. Just as the IIT-JEE is tougher than the All India Engineering Entrance Examination now, so the Advanced will be more difficult than the Main.
Deemed varsities
Sibal’s ministry today met the vice-chancellors of deemed universities and asked them to adopt the JEE Main for admission to their engineering courses.
“All the deemed universities have agreed in principle to adopt the pattern of the JEE Main and give weightage to board marks in the admission process. They are free to decide their own weightage formula,” a ministry official said.
Since the process of giving weightage to candidates’ board marks depends on early publication of Class XII results, a meeting of all the school boards has been called on Thursday.
The Council of Boards of School Education, which coordinates with all the boards on matters of common interest, has called the meeting and will ask the boards to publish their results in quick time.
374 - Yes Minister! You’ve got it right - The Hindu
Tuesday, June 26, 2012
373 - IIT admission row: Address the real problem Economic Times
372 - Compromise formula hinges on Senates’ call - Eklavyajee
371 - Indian Institute of Technology directors mull solution - India Today
370 - Latest news on IIT JEE - 26th June 2012
369 - Prof. Gautam Barua's Response to Open Letter from Prof Dheeraj Sanghi.
Response to Dheeraj Sanghi's Open Letter
According to the IIT Kanpur Website, there has been a “A devastating and rather harsh exposé of the 'scientific temper' (or the lack of it) shown by members of the IIT Council. 'JEE 2013: An Open Letter to Prof. Barua' by Prof. Dheeraj Sanghi, IIT Kanpur.”
Elsewhere in the same website we have “A very strong response by Prof. Dheeraj Sanghi, IIT Kanpur to the claims made by those defending the IIT Council proposal.”
Harsh and strong: I agree. I have no desire to engage in argument regarding my motives and my behaviour. I only wish to state that I reject all allegations of lying. I have defended the proposal because I think it is the best alternative under the present circumstances. I was not responsible for delaying the Aptitude Test. In fact not only me, but the IITG Senate wanted an Aptitiude test (see the IITG Senate resolution of Apr 25) . It should come in later years. I have no hidden agenda and I do not have any “irrestible urge to manage other IITs” (ridiculous! way beyond decency!).
I forgive Dheeraj for his trespasses for he knows not what ……
But I would like to focus on the meat of the proposal:
On the ISI Report and Percentile Ranks
Dheeraj Sanghi has stated that
They gave a report which said that more studies needed to be done with data from more boards for more years.
This had two problems.
One, MHRD would have taken a long time to get all this data. ….
He has obviously not read the report or has not understood its contents.
The ISI report made the following assumptions (the report is available here):
2 Assumptions needed for comparability of different board scores
The following assumptions would have to be made in order to make the aggregate scores of different boards comparable.
• Aggregate scores are expected to increase from less meritorious to more
meritorious students in any particular subject
• Merit distribution is the same in all boards.
The first assumption is that Boards awards marks according to merit.
This has been challenged by many with respect to State Boards without any analysis of any data (not sure it is even possible to do any analysis as merit cannot be established objectively: it has to be something society by and large agrees upon), but by anecdotal evidences of corruption, fraud etc.
The second assumption is that meritorious students are unformily distributed across all Boards (I have used the argument of the law of large numbers in relation to the population base of Boards (and not the size of the Boards) to argue in favour of this).
The ISI report then goes on to state (bold mine):
3 Stability of board scores
Under the above assumptions, the percentile ranks of students in different board examinations become directly comparable. It would be of interest to observe how the raw aggregate scores relate to the percentile ranks, and how these relationships vary from year to year as well as across different boards.
There is therefore no need for any more analysis of data of other Boards to establish this assertion. I throw an open challenge to anyone to refute this assertion. It is so simple, what is there to refute? Any classs IX student should be able to understand. Unfortunately, many well respected IIT faculty have failed to understand this. Maybe they have not read the ISI report (the full report is enclosed in another post).
Now the ISI report does talk about analysing the data of other Boards, Why? First of all they repeat the above assertion again in section 4 (bold mine):
4 Criterion for selection
Under the two assumptions mentioned in Section 2, the percentile ranks of the students computed from aggregate scores are comparable across different boards and years. Any monotone transformation of the percentile ranks is also appropriate for comparison, as long as the same transformation is used across different boards and years. Let us now consider a few such transformations.
They then go on to consider a transformation (bold mine):
Any of the curves in the first figure is a monotone function of the percentile rank. One can use any one of them, say CBSE 2007, as standard. If the same transformation of percentile ranks is used for other boards and years, then the resulting modified score of any student of any board in any year can be regarded as the aggregate score, which could have been obtained by that student if he/she had appeared for the CBSE examinations in 2007. Thus, the transformed scores provide a common basis for comparison.
A feature of such a transformation is that, after this transformation, the scores are not evenly distributed throughout the available range of scores. In particular, when the scale of the CBSE 2007 aggregate score is used, less than 5% of the students have scores in the range of 90% to 100% of the maximum score. On the other hand, more than 10% of the students (spanning over the percentile range of 50 to 62) have scores squeezed in the narrow range of 65% to 70% of maximum score. This would lead to a loss of discriminating power in that percentile range, particularly if the board scores are used only as a component in a weighted selection criterion involving multiple components.
For maximal discrimination over the requisite range of percentile ranks, it is imperative that the scores have the uniform distribution over that range. This may be achieved if the percentile ranks themselves are used as scores. If there is a threshold percentile, say 75%, then the available range is maximally utilized by using the following linear transformation of the percentile rank:
(Percentile Rank of Student -75 / (100-75) ) * 100 -- (1)
According to this scale, a student with percentile rank 75 receives the score 0, a
student with percentile rank 90 receives 60, and the topper receives 100. Similar
computations can be done for other choices of the threshold percentile.
Then comes the recommendations, which has caused some confusion as some eminent folks seem to have read only the recommendations and not the rest of the report.
5 Recommendations
(a) The above analysis regarding stability of board scores should be carried out
for all the boards over a longer period of time.
(b) If the reported stability of the board scores is found to hold generally, then a transformed percentile rank with a suitable cut-off, as described in (1), may be used as a score representing performance in the board examination, for the
purpose of admission to tertiary education.
(c) The different boards should be asked to indicate the percentile rank of each
student in the mark sheet.
(d) In order to prepare a formal and reliable basis for selection at the tertiary level, educational institutions at that level, including the IITs, should be asked to provide to the HRD ministry a statement of marks obtained by each graduating student, together with the student’s score in the admission test of that institution (if any), the board score at the class XII level and the name of the board.
Now why is the analysis mentioned in (a) above required? Because of recommendation (b)! A transformation is recommended only if the analysis of (a) is done. But if there is to be no transformation but the percentile ranks themselves are used as scores, then there is no need to analyse any further data, as the two assumptions are there. One may point out that since ISI did not propose this, there must be a problem with using percentile ranks as scores. I think they wanted better discrimination through some transformation and so they only recommended some transformation. I confess I am not able to give a clear answer to this. But I am confident that what has been proposed is sound (see below).
Now to the formula in the proposal. The only difference is that ISI had suggested a cut-off and had recommended that a suitable cut-off be used, but the proposal uses no cut-off. Why was this done? This was done because with reservations, any cut-off could adversely affect the filling up of reserved seats. Further, while a cut-off would improve the level of discrimination, it was felt that since the proposal was likely to meet some resistance, it is better to reduce the discrimination, and let the exams be the discriminating components. So, there was no “Barua formula”, and there was nothing sinister about the proposal. The “formula” itself, which was not given by ISI (they might have felt that they would be insulting the readers of their reports if they did so – in hindsight, they should have done so!), is a standard one that can be found in any text book on Statistics. I cannot be given credit for this ( a case of reverse plagiarism?).

