“ a compromise formula which includes a proposal to take top 20% students based on percentile ranking of respective boards for preparing the merit list”

How meaningless is this solution ?. Higher education in India will become the domain of the school toppers and Children of affluent parents and we wonder why half a million students leave India to study undergraduate courses overseas. Children who will never return to a country that shunned them.

Is this is what we call inclusive in RTE ?.

God Save India

Inclusive education does not mean that everyone must enter, or pass out from, an IIT. It only means that if you wanted to, you could have a shot at it. The child labourer is excluded because she can never dream of entering an IIT; she may absolutely hate IIT, but not trying to join an IIT should be her decision. Even if there is only one IIT train, every child must have access to the platform where the train comes. Of course, not everyone will get on to the train but everyone knows what to do to have a shot at the train. This is called inclusion in education. Everyone must go to school till class 12; those who work hard, and are willing to work harder still, will join an IIT. Others will, by choice, decide not to work that hard and become economists.

Shubhashis Gangopadhyay


All children are born equal and mindless politicians are trying to grade the children and youth of the nation and create a new Brahamanical Caste system in Education, which is pandering to the neo rich who can afford to send their children to elite private schools and Coaching schools.

"HRD Ministry of India wants to build castles of higher education on the bamboo scaffoldings of its schools" ~ Satish Jha

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Wednesday, June 27, 2012

378 - You have to be a Brahmin in India to become an engineering


If GoI had declared today that you have to be a Brahmin in India to sit for a national engineering exam, there will be riots all over the nation by now. Dalits and OBCs will be out in arms. However this is just  hypothetical.

My question is, a decision to allow only the top 20% in every board to even sit for an exam is just as bad as saying only Brahmins are allowed in these temples of knowledge.

If this is the best IIT Senates, and IIT Council and HRD can come up with
the nation has zero hope of any progress.

There is no guarantee that some one scoring 95% in One Board is better that some one scoring 65% in another board. To explain this better take the top student from every school say in a state and make them all sit for the same exam. Will they all rate the same ?

We are not comparing apples for apples.

All we will end up with is a Fruit Salad that no one cherishes.

I can see a new kind of caste system being propagated in India all over again by Congress, to suppress the disadvantaged .

Reservations in India has ensured the disadvantaged have remained disadvantaged for life.

JEE succeeded early on as there were zero barriers. The day JEE Committees started including parameters to manipulate the type and quality of students sitting for JEE, they lost the plot.

If students are not attending classes in schools, it is a social problem and the choice is made by the parents. This is not IITs problem.

Any way time to write the Obituary for all IITs.

377 - IITs Buckle - Kapil Sibal Wins - Just off the Press - 27th June 2012

Govt, IIT row over entrance test resolved
Business Standard - ‎7 minutes ago‎

PTI / New Delhi June 27, 2012, 18:35 The row between government and IITs over entrance test was resolved today with a compromise agreement being reached over holding the common exams from next year. Under the new format, an advance test will be ...

Council meeting: Top 20 percentile students across 40 boards to be eligible to 
Economic Times - ‎9 minutes ago‎

NEW DELHI: In a bid to break the impasse over Common Entrance Test (CET) for engineering colleges in the country replacing IIT JEE, the IIT Council today decided that top 20 percentile from every board would be eligible to appear for the JEE Main exam.

IIT-CET row: Compromise formula reached
Zee News - ‎14 minutes ago‎

New Delhi: A consensus between the government and IITs over Common Entrance Test (CET) has reached on Wednesday. Ahead of their meeting with Sibal later today, IIT directors met on Wednesday and reportedly agreed at the compromise formula floated by ...

Kapil Sibal skips IIT council meet
Times of India - ‎48 minutes ago‎

NEW DELHI: Human resource development minister Kapil Sibal on Wednesday skipped the meeting of IIT Council convened by him to discuss the proposed common entrance test after opposition from some of the premier engineering institutions.

New IIT-JEE formula: only top 20 percent can write exam
Firstpost - ‎55 minutes ago‎

by FP Staff 5 mins ago Despite Union Minister Kapil Sibal not attending the the meeting of the IIT Council held today, the directors of the IITs have reportedly decided on a compromise formula under which only the top 20 percent of students from each ...

Govt-IITs row ends; new JEE format from 2013
IBNLive.com - ‎59 minutes ago‎

New Delhi: The prestigious Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) have agreed on a compromise formula on the common entrance exam for undergraduate courses after several weeks of face off with the Central Government, particularly HRD Minister Kapil ...

IIT exam: New format decided, will begin next year
NDTV - ‎1 hour ago‎

New Delhi: For students aching to know what it will take to get into IIT, there's finally closure. The IIT council has decided that starting next year, students who score in the top 20% of their board exams will take the main or multiple-choice exam.

Government, IIT reach compromise over new entrance exam format
NDTV - ‎1 hour ago‎

New Delhi: A compromise formula on the new controversial exam formula has been worked out between the government and the Indian Institutes of Technology at an IIT council meeting today regarding. According to reports, the new format may be introduced ...

Kapil Sibal - IIT reach a compromise: Top 5 developments
NDTV - ‎1 hour ago‎

New Delhi: Faced with immense protests from the IIT faculty, Mr Kapil Sibal was to meet the IIT council today. But Mr Sibal skipped the meeting that was actually convened after two IITs - Kanpur and Delhi - rejected his 'one nation, one test' formula ...

Kapil Sibal skips key meeting with IIT directors
NDTV - ‎2 hours ago‎

New Delhi: A revolt by the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) against the new exam formula fixed by Human Resource Development (HRD) Minister Kapil Sibal, to decide who gets into India's most prestigious engineering colleges, was discussed ...

Kapil Sibal skips IITs-HRD Ministry meet
IBNLive.com - ‎2 hours ago‎

New Delhi: HRD Minister Kapil Sibal on Wednesday skipped the meeting with IIT Council to resolve the common entrance exam controversy even as an IIT Faculty Federation member claimed that a compromise formula has been worked out.

Compromise formula worked out for IIT exam
IBNLive.com - ‎3 hours ago‎

New Delhi: The IITs and the HRD Ministry have agreed to a compromise formula over the joint entrance test row. IIT Faculty Federation member, Professor SK Das told CNN-IBN they have proposed that top 20 per cent students of each board and advanced exam ...

The IIT and Kapil Sibal compromise formula: No class 12 board marks to be ...
NDTV - ‎4 hours ago‎

New Delhi: Faced with immense protests from the IIT faculty, Mr Kapil Sibal is meeting the IIT council today. This meeting was convened after two IITs - Kanpur and Delhi - rejected his 'one nation, one test' formula and decided to hold their own test.

Entrance exam row: IIT Council to meet today; will the impasse end?
NDTV - ‎4 hours ago‎

New Delhi: A revolt by IITs against the new exam to decide who gets into India's most prestigious engineering colleges will be discussed threadbare today at a meeting of the IIT Council. The Council, which includes Directors of different IIT branches, ...

IITs to discuss compromise formula
Daily News & Analysis - ‎6 hours ago‎

By Pallavi Smart | Place: Mumbai | Agency: DNA Even as faculties of IITs are seen repeatedly shooting down the MHRD's proposal of JEE reforms, the alternative discussed at the Joint Admission Board (JAB) meeting on Saturday seems to be receiving ...

Common entrance test: Sibal to meet IIT directors today
Times of India - ‎6 hours ago‎

NEW DELHI: Union human resource and development (HRD) minister Kapil Sibal will meet the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) directors here on Wednesday to bring an end to the ongoing row over conducting a common entrance exam, according to TV reports ...


HRD ministry to meet IIT Council to break impasse over new entrance pattern
India Today - ‎7 hours ago‎

After IIT Delhi followed Kanpur's way against the proposed common entrance test, the Human Resource Development Ministry called a meeting of the IIT Council to discuss the situation. The meeting to be chaired by Kapil Sibal will be held on Wednesday.

IITs, Govt likely to agree on a compromise formula
IBNLive.com - ‎9 hours ago‎

New Delhi: After weeks of uncertainty, the IIT admission row could be resolved on Wednesday. The IIT Council members will meet HRD ministry officials on Wednesday to try and resolve the issue. -Letting only the top 20 percentile of each board appear ...

No common ground in sight regarding IIT admissions
Economic Times - ‎14 hours ago‎

NEW DELHI: HRD minister and IIT Council chairman Kapil Sibal is caught in a tight spot. If the government thought that reworking its "one nation, one examination" proposal to accommodate the concerns of protesting IIT faculty would resolve the ...

IIT-Kharagpur in 'wait and watch mode' over common test
Times of India - ‎16 hours ago‎

KOLKATA: The final decision regarding the Union HRD minister Kapil Sibal's proposal to hold a common entrance test for the IITs is likely to be taken on Wednesday. The directors of all the 15 IITs have already reached Delhi to participate in the IIT ...

IIT-Kharagpur pushes for 30% cut-off, status quo for now
Hindustan Times - ‎17 hours ago‎

Ahead of the IIT council meet on June 27, the extended executive committee of the IIT-Kharagpur Teacher's Association met on Monday and passed a resolution on several points relating to the new JEE pattern. The four-point resolution stated that the ...

Before key meet, IIT head questions new exam plan
Hindustan Times - ‎17 hours ago‎

Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) Guwahati director Gautam Barua has questioned a compromise proposal on IIT admission reforms ahead of a key meet aimed at hammering out a consensus between the government and protesting faculty.

Govt, IIT row over entrance test resolved
Indian Express - ‎57 seconds ago‎

The row between government and IITs over entrance test was resolved on Wednesday with a compromise agreement being reached over holding the common exams from next year. Under the new format, an advance test will be conducted and the elite educational ...

IITs, HRD ministry strike a deal; new entrance test format from 2013
India Today - ‎3 minutes ago‎

The Union human resources development (HRD) ministry and the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) reached a compromise on the entrance exam controversy, with the chairman of standing council of IIT Council, MM Sharma, announcing the new admission ...

IIT-CET row: Compromise formula reached
Zee News - ‎5 minutes ago‎
New Delhi: A consensus between the government and IITs over Common Entrance Test (CET) has reached on Wednesday. Ahead of their meeting with Sibal later today, IIT directors met on Wednesday and reportedly agreed at the compromise formula floated by ...

Kapil Sibal skips IIT council meet
Times of India - ‎38 minutes ago‎

NEW DELHI: Human resource development minister Kapil Sibal on Wednesday skipped the meeting of IIT Council convened by him to discuss the proposed common entrance test after opposition from some of the premier engineering institutions.


New IIT-JEE formula: only top 20 percent can write exam
Firstpost - ‎46 minutes ago‎

by FP Staff 5 mins ago Despite Union Minister Kapil Sibal not attending the the meeting of the IIT Council held today, the directors of the IITs have reportedly decided on a compromise formula under which only the top 20 percent of students from each ...

Govt-IITs row ends; new JEE format from 2013
IBNLive.com - ‎49 minutes ago‎

New Delhi: The prestigious Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) have agreed on a compromise formula on the common entrance exam for undergraduate courses after several weeks of face off with the Central Government, particularly HRD Minister Kapil ...

IIT exam: New format decided, will begin next year
NDTV - ‎1 hour ago‎

New Delhi: For students aching to know what it will take to get into IIT, there's finally closure. The IIT council has decided that starting next year, students who score in the top 20% of their board exams will take the main or multiple-choice exam.

Government, IIT reach compromise over new entrance exam format
NDTV - ‎1 hour ago‎

New Delhi: A compromise formula on the new controversial exam formula has been worked out between the government and the Indian Institutes of Technology at an IIT council meeting today regarding. According to reports, the new format may be introduced ...

Kapil Sibal - IIT reach a compromise: Top 5 developments
NDTV - ‎1 hour ago‎

New Delhi: Faced with immense protests from the IIT faculty, Mr Kapil Sibal was to meet the IIT council today. But Mr Sibal skipped the meeting that was actually convened after two IITs - Kanpur and Delhi - rejected his 'one nation, one test' formula ...

Kapil Sibal skips key meeting with IIT directors
NDTV - ‎2 hours ago‎

New Delhi: A revolt by the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) against the new exam formula fixed by Human Resource Development (HRD) Minister Kapil Sibal, to decide who gets into India's most prestigious engineering colleges, was discussed ...

Kapil Sibal skips IITs-HRD Ministry meet
IBNLive.com - ‎2 hours ago‎
New Delhi: HRD Minister Kapil Sibal on Wednesday skipped the meeting with IIT Council to resolve the common entrance exam controversy even as an IIT Faculty Federation member claimed that a compromise formula has been worked out.

Compromise formula worked out for IIT exam
IBNLive.com - ‎3 hours ago‎

New Delhi: The IITs and the HRD Ministry have agreed to a compromise formula over the joint entrance test row. IIT Faculty Federation member, Professor SK Das told CNN-IBN they have proposed that top 20 per cent students of each board and advanced exam ...

The IIT and Kapil Sibal compromise formula: No class 12 board marks to be ...
NDTV - ‎4 hours ago‎

New Delhi: Faced with immense protests from the IIT faculty, Mr Kapil Sibal is meeting the IIT council today. This meeting was convened after two IITs - Kanpur and Delhi - rejected his 'one nation, one test' formula and decided to hold their own test.

Entrance exam row: IIT Council to meet today; will the impasse end?
NDTV - ‎4 hours ago‎

New Delhi: A revolt by IITs against the new exam to decide who gets into India's most prestigious engineering colleges will be discussed threadbare today at a meeting of the IIT Council. The Council, which includes Directors of different IIT branches, ...

IITs to discuss compromise formula
Daily News & Analysis - ‎6 hours ago‎

By Pallavi Smart | Place: Mumbai | Agency: DNA Even as faculties of IITs are seen repeatedly shooting down the MHRD's proposal of JEE reforms, the alternative discussed at the Joint Admission Board (JAB) meeting on Saturday seems to be receiving ...

Common entrance test: Sibal to meet IIT directors today
Times of India - ‎6 hours ago‎

NEW DELHI: Union human resource and development (HRD) minister Kapil Sibal will meet the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) directors here on Wednesday to bring an end to the ongoing row over conducting a common entrance exam, according to TV reports ...

HRD ministry to meet IIT Council to break impasse over new entrance pattern
India Today - ‎7 hours ago‎
After IIT Delhi followed Kanpur's way against the proposed common entrance test, the Human Resource Development Ministry called a meeting of the IIT Council to discuss the situation. The meeting to be chaired by Kapil Sibal will be held on Wednesday.

IITs, Govt likely to agree on a compromise formula
IBNLive.com - ‎9 hours ago‎

New Delhi: After weeks of uncertainty, the IIT admission row could be resolved on Wednesday. The IIT Council members will meet HRD ministry officials on Wednesday to try and resolve the issue. -Letting only the top 20 percentile of each board appear ...

No common ground in sight regarding IIT admissions
Economic Times - ‎14 hours ago‎

NEW DELHI: HRD minister and IIT Council chairman Kapil Sibal is caught in a tight spot. If the government thought that reworking its "one nation, one examination" proposal to accommodate the concerns of protesting IIT faculty would resolve the ...

IIT-Kharagpur in 'wait and watch mode' over common test
Times of India - ‎16 hours ago‎

KOLKATA: The final decision regarding the Union HRD minister Kapil Sibal's proposal to hold a common entrance test for the IITs is likely to be taken on Wednesday. The directors of all the 15 IITs have already reached Delhi to participate in the IIT ...

IIT-Kharagpur pushes for 30% cut-off, status quo for now
Hindustan Times - ‎17 hours ago‎

Ahead of the IIT council meet on June 27, the extended executive committee of the IIT-Kharagpur Teacher's Association met on Monday and passed a resolution on several points relating to the new JEE pattern. The four-point resolution stated that the ...

Before key meet, IIT head questions new exam plan
Hindustan Times - ‎17 hours ago‎

Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) Guwahati director Gautam Barua has questioned a compromise proposal on IIT admission reforms ahead of a key meet aimed at hammering out a consensus between the government and protesting faculty.

Sibal to meet IIT directors tomorrow to resolve entrance exam
IBNLive.com - ‎Jun 26, 2012‎

PTI | 04:06 PM,Jun 26,2012 row New Delhi, June 26 (PTI) HRD Minister Kapil Sibal will meet IIT directors tomorrow to resolve the common entrance exam row as the government proposal is being resisted by some of the IITs. Sibal will chair the meeting of ...

Kapil Sibal to meet IIT directors tomorrow
Economic Times - ‎Jun 26, 2012‎

NEW DELHI: HRD Minister Kapil Sibal will meet IIT directors tomorrow to resolve the common entrance exam row as the government proposal is being resisted by some of the IITs. Sibal will chair the meeting of the IIT council, the highest decision making ...

Government ready to soften stand to end IIT stalemate
Economic Times - ‎Jun 25, 2012‎

NEW DELHI: Keen to end the standoff with the IIT faculty over the common entrance examination, the government has indicated it is willing to rework its "one nation, one examination" proposal to address their concerns over the institutes' excellence.

Deemed varsities to adopt single entrance test for undergraduate engineering ...
Times of India - ‎Jun 25, 2012‎

NEW DELHI: Deemed universities are likely to adopt the single entrance test for undergraduate engineering programmes. Incidentally, the format of a common test had met with opposition from some sections in the Indian Institutes of Technology.

Deemed varsities briefed
The Hindu - ‎Jun 25, 2012‎

Even as the government is struggling to address the issues raised by the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) with regard to the joint entrance examination for engineering undergraduate courses, Human Resource Development Minister Kapil Sibal, ...

Centre gives deemed universities CET freedom
Times of India - ‎Jun 25, 2012‎

CHENNAI: The Union ministry of human resources development on Monday said all deemed universities across the country will be given the option of admitting students to graduate courses based on the Centre's proposed common entrance test (CET) or their ...

Common entrance: Deemed varsities give 'in-principle' approval
Zee News - ‎Jun 25, 2012‎
New Delhi: Deemed universities are also poised to adopt the single entrance test for undergraduate engineering programmes as they have given their "in-principle" approval to the format of examination proposed for the elite technical institutes of the ...

Sibal to meet deemed universities' representatives
IBNLive.com - ‎Jun 24, 2012‎

New Delhi: After facing opposition from the IITs, HRD Minister Kapil Sibal is trying to seek support from deemed universities on his controversial common entrance test. Sibal will meet the representatives of 130 universities on Monday to get them on ...

376 - Latest News on IIT JEE - 27th June 2012

Entrance exam row: IIT Council to meet today; will the impasse end?
NDTV - ‎32 minutes ago‎

New Delhi: The Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) Council, headed by Human Resource Development Minister Kapil Sibal, will meet in New Delhi today with the hope of resolving the impasse over the new entrance exam format. The union minister called ...

Sibal to meet IIT directors today to resolve entrance exam row
Hindustan Times - ‎1 hour ago‎

HRD minister Kapil Sibal will meet IIT directors on Wednesday to resolve the common entrance exam row as the government proposal is being resisted by some of the IITs. Sibal will chair the meeting of the IIT council, the highest decision making body of ...

IITs, Govt likely to agree on a compromise formula
IBNLive.com - ‎1 hour ago‎

New Delhi: After weeks of uncertainty, the IIT admission row could be resolved on Wednesday. The IIT Council members will meet HRD ministry officials on Wednesday to try and resolve the issue. -Letting only the top 20 percentile of each board appear ...

No common ground in sight regarding IIT admissions
Economic Times - ‎5 hours ago‎

NEW DELHI: HRD minister and IIT Council chairman Kapil Sibal is caught in a tight spot. If the government thought that reworking its "one nation, one examination" proposal to accommodate the concerns of protesting IIT faculty would resolve the ...

IIT-Kharagpur in 'wait and watch mode' over common test
Times of India - ‎7 hours ago‎

KOLKATA: The final decision regarding the Union HRD minister Kapil Sibal's proposal to hold a common entrance test for the IITs is likely to be taken on Wednesday. The directors of all the 15 IITs have already reached Delhi to participate in the IIT ...

IIT-Kharagpur pushes for 30% cut-off, status quo for now
Hindustan Times - ‎9 hours ago‎

Ahead of the IIT council meet on June 27, the extended executive committee of the IIT-Kharagpur Teacher's Association met on Monday and passed a resolution on several points relating to the new JEE pattern. The four-point resolution stated that the ...

Before key meet, IIT head questions new exam plan
Hindustan Times - ‎9 hours ago‎

Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) Guwahati director Gautam Barua has questioned a compromise proposal on IIT admission reforms ahead of a key meet aimed at hammering out a consensus between the government and protesting faculty.

At IIT-Bombay, coveted courses don't ensure happiness: Study
Economic Times - ‎21 hours ago‎

MUMBAI: Happiness does not have anything to do with getting into the most-sought after courses in IITs. Instead , it may have an inverse relationship. A survey conducted at the Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay (IIT-B ) on the happiness quotient of ...

Government ready to soften stand to end IIT stalemate
Economic Times - ‎Jun 25, 2012‎

NEW DELHI: Keen to end the standoff with the IIT faculty over the common entrance examination, the government has indicated it is willing to rework its "one nation, one examination" proposal to address their concerns over the institutes' excellence.

Yes Minister! You've got it right
The Hindu - ‎Jun 25, 2012‎

After visiting New Delhi in the mid-1970s, the editor of an important American newspaper, the story goes, wrote that only in two places are Indians not permitted to have a drink at a five-star hotel — South Africa, and India! Sadly, some 40 years later ...

Why have CET when nothing is common between IITs and the rest?

Daily News & Analysis - ‎Jun 24, 2012‎

The most compelling argument against the proposed Common Entrance Test to all engineering institutions like the Indian Institutes of Technology, the Indian Institutes of Information Technology and the National Institutes of Technology is that the ...

Ahead of Council meet,IIT faculty body says amicable solution in sight
Indian Express - ‎Jun 24, 2012‎

Ahead of the crucial IIT Council meeting that could end the stalemate between IITs and the Ministry of Human Resource Development (MHRD) over the new test format and decide the fate of lakhs of students, the All India IIT Faculty Federation (AIIITFF) ...

IIT admission row: Address the real problem
Economic Times - ‎Jun 24, 2012‎

The IIT student-selection imbroglio has the familiar confusion on what the real problem issues are. Understandable, because the problem is complex and the solution not obvious because of a sensitive public good that has many stakeholders, ...

Single engineering exam chaos fuels coaching class rush
Times of India - ‎Jun 24, 2012‎

MUMBAI: With the board exams just eight months away, parents are paying extra money to coaching classes to prepare their children for the upcoming board exams too, defying the purpose of a common entrance test for admissions to centrally funded ...

New formula pacifies IIT faculty members
Business Standard - ‎Jun 24, 2012‎

A compromise offer worked out by the Joint Admission Board (JAB) for admission to the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) has pacified agitating members of the All India IIT Faculty Federation (AIIITFF). Even so, the problem of autonomy of the IITs ...

IITs versus Kapil Sibal
Times Now.tv - ‎1 hour ago‎

As the IIT entrance exam row intensifies, HRD minister Kapil Sibal is to meet the IIT council on Wednesday (June 27), but with as many as three IIT Senates rejecting Sibal's 'one Nation, one exam' proposal, will Kapil Sibal manage to find a way to ...

Tough IIT test for Sibal
Calcutta Telegraph - ‎5 hours ago‎

New Delhi, June 26: Human resource development minister Kapil Sibal would be bracing for a tough session tomorrow when he tries to hammer out a solution on a proposed single entrance two-tier exam for aspiring engineers. IIT faculty, directors and ...

Kapil Sibal to meet IIT directors today
Deccan Herald - ‎10 hours ago‎

Union Human Resources Development Minister Kapil Sibal will chair the IIT Council meeting on Wednesday to end the impasse over the common entrance test. The meet will deliberate on a resolution adopted by the IIT Joint Admission Board (JAB,) which met ...

IIT-Delhi: Disabled student challenges IIT's rejection in court
Indian Colleges - ‎Jun 25, 2012‎

The Delhi High Court issued a notice to the Indian Institute of Technology-Delhi (IIT-D) for denying admission to a student under the handicapped category on the ground that his disability was less than 40 percent. Justice Pratibha Rani sought the ...

IIT to help prepare drainage master plan
Deccan Herald - ‎Jun 25, 2012‎

The state cabinet on Monday gave its nod for appointing Indian Institute of Technology, Delhi, as a consultant to prepare the drainage master plan for the Capital. The cabinet also decided to take a holistic approach while preparing the master plan.

Entry confusion takes toll on students
Calcutta Telegraph - ‎Jun 25, 2012‎

New Delhi, June 25: Praveen Kumar, an IIT aspirant from Jammu, has the JEE to crack next year but his deep anxiety is affecting his preparations. Praveen, who cleared his Class XII boards with 70 per cent marks this year, arrived in Delhi a few months ...

One-test relief plan for NITs
Calcutta Telegraph - ‎Jun 25, 2012‎

New Delhi, June 25: Students seeking admission to centrally funded tech schools other than the IITs will have to take just one entrance test rather than two if a meeting chaired by Kapil Sibal on Wednesday accepts the

375 - One-test relief plan for NITs - Meet to decide if board marks weightage for IITs will stay

One-test relief plan for NITs  - Meet to decide if board marks weightage for IITs will stay

BASANT KUMAR MOHANTY 
Tuesday , June 26 , 2012 |

New Delhi, June 25: Students seeking admission to centrally funded tech schools other than the IITs will have to take just one entrance test rather than two if a meeting chaired by Kapil Sibal on Wednesday accepts the proposal.

The idea is part of a set of suggestions before the IIT Council, headed by the human resource development minister, that seeks to resolve the dispute over purported admission reforms that have been opposed by IIT faculty.

The key proposal is to scrap the planned weightage to candidates’ Class XII board marks in IIT admission — the sticking point with the faculty. (See chart)


Another suggestion is that students vying for seats in the National Institutes of Technology (NITs) or the Indian Institutes of Information Technology (IIITs) but not the IITs be made to take only the JEE Main.

Under the proposal, only IIT aspirants would have to take both the JEE Main and the JEE Advanced.

If approved, the move will bring relief to at least seven lakh students. Some five lakh students now take the IIT-JEE while 12 lakh appear in the All India Engineering Entrance Examination for the 15,000 seats in all the other centrally funded tech schools, which include 30 NITs, four IIITs and a few other institutes.

From next year, Sibal’s ministry plans to merge the two exams into a combined JEE for admission to all centrally funded technical institutes. The new JEE is to have two parts: Main and Advanced.

Under the originally mooted reforms, decided by the IIT Council on May 28, all candidates were to take both exams. The change, if carried out, will please the IIT faculty a section of which was against making both rounds of the exam mandatory for those not seeking IIT seats.

Under the May 28 reforms, both the Main and the Advanced were to be held on the same day, which the faculty argued would be too stressful for the students. On Wednesday, the IIT Council will consider letting the IITs hold the JEE Advanced on a later date of their choosing.

The government will ask the IITs to align the JEE Advanced syllabus with that of the JEE Main so that the tougher second-round exam can in the long run be done away with. Just as the IIT-JEE is tougher than the All India Engineering Entrance Examination now, so the Advanced will be more difficult than the Main.

Deemed varsities

Sibal’s ministry today met the vice-chancellors of deemed universities and asked them to adopt the JEE Main for admission to their engineering courses.

“All the deemed universities have agreed in principle to adopt the pattern of the JEE Main and give weightage to board marks in the admission process. They are free to decide their own weightage formula,” a ministry official said.

Since the process of giving weightage to candidates’ board marks depends on early publication of Class XII results, a meeting of all the school boards has been called on Thursday.

The Council of Boards of School Education, which coordinates with all the boards on matters of common interest, has called the meeting and will ask the boards to publish their results in quick time.

374 - Yes Minister! You’ve got it right - The Hindu


PRADIPTA K. MOHAPATRA
June 26, 2012

RAT RACE: Students start preparing for the competitive entrance exams much before their school leaving year. A file picture of students at an IIT coaching centre in Chennai. Photo: V. Ganesan

Kapil Sibal needs to be commended for upholding the importance of Class 12 marks for admissions to institutes of higher education

After visiting New Delhi in the mid-1970s, the editor of an important American newspaper, the story goes, wrote that only in two places are Indians not permitted to have a drink at a five-star hotel — South Africa, and India!

Sadly, some 40 years later, that story could well be about Indian degrees and diplomas. India’s Class 12 certificates issued by the Indian Certificate of Secondary Education (ICSE), Central Board of Secondary Education (CBSE) and various State Boards are accepted as a qualifying score for an admission to undergraduate classes in more than half of the top 200 universities in the world. 

The only country where these certificates are not accepted (or scores not recognised) is India itself. Why else would we run a plethora of entrance tests for admission into universities or institutes, the Indian Institutes of Technology (IIT) included? It is well recognised that there is great discrepancy between boards. The Odisha Board of Secondary Education may not be comparable to say, Delhi. But going by the number of students from Odisha crawling around Delhi University, this may not be entirely correct.

Coaching industry at Kota
Union Minister of Human Resource Development (HRD) Kapil Sibal has now got it right by recognising that the Class 12 score must be considered, at least in part, for admission into higher education including the IITs. This, I hope, is the first step towards abolishing all entrance tests and recognising the certificates that are in any case issued by the government. By not recognising the Class 12 score we have created what we would call “Kota style education,” which at the last count was a Rs.50,000 crore industry.

To elaborate: some 1,00,000 students on completion of Class 10 carry their bag and baggage, and at times, alongwith one of their parents, and travel to Kota, Rajasthan. The back-breaking two years involve admitting themselves to one of the several hundred coaching classes for the IITs, National Institutes of Technology (NIT) or medical colleges, where they work for about 18 hours a day. Neither the soaring temperatures in Kota nor the appalling living conditions bother them. As passing Class 12 is mandatory to get into the IITs, these students get admitted to one or another board as distance learners. They need only a pass certificate — the scores are unimportant.

“Kota style” education now thrives in the backstreets of Bethia, Berhampur and Tirunelveli. It is a $10-billion industry, and is now run by many public limited companies, some hugely funded by overseas private equity funds — $10 billion is more than the government’s annual funding to the University Grants Commission (UGC).

Mr. Sibal needs to be complimented for bringing sanity into higher education by recognising that our own degrees and diplomas must be counted in admissions to our own colleges and universities.

As for the hue and cry created by IIT alumni associations about the Minister’s proposal to democratise IIT admission, you don’t have to be a genius to appreciate and understand the sentiments of the IIT alumni. Let us not forget that they are all born and brought up in the same country as us and have grown up in the same feudal culture. They are the neo-Brahmins. After all, how can they permit children of lesser castes to get into their temples? This is the overriding sentiment. The purported line is that we must protect quality of education of the IITs. But the real need is to protect the IITs from “Kota style” coaching classes.

Five-point agenda
Here is a five-point agenda to improve higher education, particularly technical education, in India.

Create capacity: Permit private institutions to significantly increase capacity. It is well known that the school to college dropout ratio is 70 per cent. The moment we say this, the bogey raised is that quality will fall. Therefore, what is required is a strong autonomous regulator that will certify the quality of education, like in all developed parts of the world. Encouraging quality, removing bottlenecks, and enhancing capacities should be the cornerstone architecture of the regulators rather than “control.”

Government managed (read controlled) technical education is now about 10 per cent of the total number of seats. Increase the capacity of the IITs and NITs by 5x. People ask, where are the teachers (of “quality”)? The answer is to increase the compensation package of teachers by 5x. Many corporate organisations are willing to sponsor chairs in much the same way as it happens in the western world, to pay deserving teachers.

Introduce for-profit higher education: The best kept secret is that the currently structured trust managed educational institutions are truly not “not-for-profit.” We must acknowledge that and ask the regulator to grant, say, a 12 per cent equated return to investors in these institutes and universities.

Create a band of adjunct faculty: Top educational institutions all over the world operate with a strong partnership with industry and business. The starting point is to get a large list of volunteers from industry who are willing to devote time as adjunct faculty. Clearly there are issues of consistency in education delivery but industry bodies like the Confederation of Indian Industry (CII) can very well be motivated to provide this thrust. We need to work on a model of how academics can work hand in hand with practising managers.

Privatise some IITs and NITs: privatising a non-profit organisation is bound to stir up a hornet’s nest. But some IITs and NITs can be privatised on an experimental basis.

Create competition: Before the private universities bill has even been passed, the HRD Ministry is already talking about controls. The anti-competition lobby is already working to eliminate future competition. If our objective is to create capacity, let us welcome any registered university from any respectable part of the world. Competition will decide whether the students want to go to Delhi University or Hawaii University’s campus in Delhi!

Amartya Sen, the Nobel laureate, said when asked about the large number of rural schools in India that have only one room and one teacher, “I will have a school with only one room and one teacher rather than no school at all.” We can’t change overnight our higher education to match MIT, Harvard or Oxford. Let’s start with capacity creation as the top most agenda. In the meanwhile, congratulations Mr. Minister for the first, forward-looking step.

(Pradipta K. Mohapatra is a Chennai-based executive coach for corporates.)



Tuesday, June 26, 2012

373 - IIT admission row: Address the real problem Economic Times


Jun 25, 2012, 04.34AM IST

The IIT student-selection imbroglio has the familiar confusion on what the real problem issues are. Understandable, because the problem is complex and the solution not obvious because of a sensitive public good that has many stakeholders, and because the root cause lies outside the IITs, in a largely state-controlled mediocre education system with an enormous demand-supply gap for quality and meritocracy. Parents and students see the few islands that have delivered both, and pull out all the stops to get in. Therefore, what is currently being formulated as a "too much pressure on children, how to reduce the number of tests" problem should be formulated as "too little capacity, how to fast-track building equally-good capacity in the shortest-possible period of time".

This needs far more than announcing new colleges with the same name in remote locations. What is wrong in students taking multiple tests, if they are conducted fairly, and do not hear money or political influence speak? It is the rite of passage of student-hood, even in the best education systems globally, students slog over multiple applications, essays, aptitude tests and interviews at undergrad levels. The mass of youth seeking jobs in India has a far rougher time than IIT aspirants. The real answer to the problem may not lie in the ministry of human resource development domain (decreasing the number of tests, etc) but in the faculty domain (finding intellectually-smart computer-based testing system that defangs coaching classes).
In a public good, there are always shades of grey on who gets to call the shots. Faculty cannot say "it's our call", and then not urgently deliver solutions to the problems caused by the present testing system, that many of them admit to. Supporters of educational-institution autonomy and activists in the ecosystem cannot unconditionally oppose government and support status-quo demands and slow response from faculty. No minister with intellectual humility and true belief in democracy can believe that he has the clinching wisdom and clout to decide the solution. Board members and chairmen of such institutions also cannot abdicate their societal responsibility and unquestioningly support government action because of fear of jeopardising their other businesses interests with the government or because they believe that it is "their money, they have a right to do what they [the government] want".
Truth is that it is not their money, but rather it is our money and they and we are trustees of it. So, the first-level framing of this problem is that this is about our democratic polity, renegotiating all our implicit (and explicit) boundaries of clout, freedom and responsibility. And, all of us who seek to engage with this problem, including government, must approach it thus.
The need for change in the IIT student-selection process has reportedly been discussed frequently by faculty senates. The faculty are increasingly concerned that the present process favours students who have successfully managed to do a one-time pole vault, after two years of narrow-focused training, to the exclusion of everything else. Many have not attended regular classes for 'plus two' (speaks volumes for the plus-two system) and are ill-equipped for the challenges of an IIT-type college system. They recognise that the test format selects high-intensity coaching-class students and does not sharply differentiate between normally-educated bright kids and obsessively-polished not-so-bright kids. Some of us who see the IIM system at close quarters wonder if we are getting hothouse flowers who cannot function except in a controlled environment.
If we 'decanted' the top hundred from the CAT and took the next two hundred, might we get a more healthy and hardy mainstream students who are better rounded individuals, likely to be better risk-takers, not obsessed about a single 'right answer' and, hence, better performers in the real world? The idea of a two-stage selection for IITs, the first stage including school marks (measured in a much more sophisticated way than MHRD suggests) as an indicator of sustained performance, is a good design principle. It will reduce the grip of the coaching classes. But the real answer is in designing innovative tests that measure 'true worth' and further reduce the coaching-class beat-the-system effect, and is the big intellectual challenge that the IIT faculty must solve quickly and completely, and earn the right to tell everyone else to back off.

Mr Kapil Sibal makes a specious argument when he says that "it is the decision of the IIT council and not of the ministry", when he is, in fact, the chairman of the council presumably because he is the minister. Further, he exercises considerable power in deciding members of the council, by deciding chairmen and directors. The "we will choose from three names institutions give us" autonomy, as in the case of IIMs as well, is a strange autonomy because the minister does not accept any ranking or feedback based on the institution's assessment of each chairman candidate's strengths and weaknesses vis-a-vis the contextual requirements for the job.
We owe it to our children not to bring arrogance, ego or poor listening skills to the problem-solving table, and to continue working collectively and intensively for as long as it takes for a good-enough solution that every stakeholder is okay with.
(The author is Independent Market Strategy Consultant)



372 - Compromise formula hinges on Senates’ call - Eklavyajee


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Pioneer :: 25 June 2012
Compromise formula hinges on Senates’ call
Deepak Kumar Jha| PNS |New Delhi| Jun 25, 2012

The compromise formula being worked out by the HRD Ministry and Council of IITs towards conduct of a common entrance test has to cross the hurdles of all the Senates of IITs. Empowered to take all academic decisions, the final call has to be taken by the Senates, which recently turned down HRD Minister Kapil Sibal’s one-nation one-test proposal leading to controversy.

The cut-off marks being set on a percentile basis for each State boards, is now likely to become a bone of contention. Even if the new eligibility criteria were  announced by Sibal and Council of IITs on Wednesday, the Senates will have to give it thumbs up. Then only the proposed test could be conducted by 2013.

The seven IITs have collectively nearly 1,400 Senate members. This number is much higher than the strength of the Council and Board.
“All the IIT Directors, HRM should understand and appreciate that final decision is of Senates when academic matters are concerned. The Council has to only coordinate amongst all IITs, which includes the nine other IITs. There should always be a common minimum programme churned out from Council, Senate and Board to reach a consensus,” said a professor of IIT-Kanpur.

To break the logjam, the IIT Directors on Saturday discussed a compromise formula, which includes a proposal to take top 20-30 students based on percentile ranking of respective boards for preparing the merit list. The percentile criterion along with performance in the JEE-Main will be used for filtering students. Their scores at the advanced test conducted by IITs will be taken into account to prepare the merit list for admission to IITs.

Meanwhile, even as the controversy is yet to settle down, the student community of IIT has expressed their resentment through an online referendum. In the survey conducted by the students of IIT Delhi, a majority of them have disapproved to the new format of the JEE proposed by the HRD Ministry.
They had also conveyed about their feelings to the IIT-Delhi Senate before it took a decision to go for an independent entrance similar to the announcement by IIT-Kanpur.

A majority of the students (93%) are opposed to the new format of the JEE. Only 5% of the respondents felt that the new format will lead to a reduction in stress, thereby questioning the credibility of the claims made by the MHRD.

Further, 87% of the students believe that the way in which the decision has been made leaves much to be desired. Therefore, there should be more debates and discussions involving the stakeholders: Faculty, students, alumni, and then a proper decision should be taken and implemented from 2014.

As many as 78% students felt that the new test will lead to a reduction in quality of the students being admitted to the IITs. Eighty-eight per cent of the students want IIT-Delhi to go ahead to support the IIT-K proposal to conduct the existing JEE, if the MHRD will not reconsider its decision.
Regarding the pattern of the exam, quite a few students (52%) desire that the JEE be returned to its pre-2006 format with a subjective main exam after an objective screening exam, however, 44% are in support of the status quo.

The students commented that the hasty procedure followed by MHRD was the most shocking of all actions. “These travails make the student demotivated enough to expect marks within a deviation of at least 5% of their original expectation, which can effectively make or break an aspirant’s future, says the students’ internal survey with 921 respondents organised by the Co-curricular and Academic Interaction Council (CAIC), and Student Affairs Council (SAC) of IIT-Delhi,” the finding of the survey said.


Times of India :: 24 June 2012
Kapil Sibal hopes IIT council meet will resolve CET row
Dhananjay Mahapatra| Times of India|New Delhi| Jun 24, 2012
The Delhi and Mumbai IITs may have moved away from the proposed common entrance test (CET) for the IITs, NITs and IIITs, but HRD minister Kapil Sibal is pinning hopes on the June 27 meeting of the IIT Council to end the raging controversy. 
The proposed CET for admissions to engineering courses to centrally funded institutions will give a minimum 40% weightage to performance of a class XII student. For admissions to NITs and IIITs, h/his class XII marks and performance in the main test would be taken into account. 
For admission to IITs, the performance in the advanced test would be taken into account in addition to the combined grade in academics and main test. Given the variation of marking in different school examination boards, the Indian Statistical Institute (ISI) has devised an equalization formula that would deny advantage to students, who score heavily in class XII examination under liberal boards. 
The CET's aim is to reduce the number of examinations a student has to take for fulfilling h/his dream to become an engineer, Sibal said. "The ultimate goal is to make the CET the only entrance examination for the engineering colleges in the entire country. This would help eliminate capitation fee as all colleges would draw students from a single merit list," the HRD minister said. 
"Maharashtra, Gujarat and Haryana have agreed to bring all their state-run engineering colleges under the umbrella of CET. So, we hope the IIT Council in its June 27 meeting would take into account the concern of the students and comes to an appropriate decision in the light of recent developments," he told TOI. 
The main test as well as the advanced test question papers would be framed by the IITs, so there was no question of compromising the unique identity of the premier engineering institutes, Sibal said. 
"The Centre took the decision on CET for IITs, IIITs and NITs after deliberations for two and half years, which was half the term of an elected government," he said. It was a consensus concern among the academicians during the wide-ranging consultation process that students aiming for the engineering courses were not too bothered about their performance in class XII examination. 
The academicians felt that students keen on joining an engineering course give more importance to coaching classes rather than what was taught in the school. So, if a good student did not get through the engineering entrance examinations, then s/he would find it difficult to get a good course in the colleges causing instability in h/his academic career. 
Hence, the HRD ministry had included weightage for performance in the class XII board examination, Sibal said.

Hindustan Times :: 24 June 2012
IIT admission body okays centre's plan
Vanita Srivastava | Hindustan Times|New Delhi| Jun 24, 2012
The Joint Admission Board (JAB) of the IITs on Saturday endorsed the formula backed by the Centre to resolve a standoff with the IIT faculty over changes in the joint entrance examination (JEE) norms. 
HT reported on June 21 how the HRD ministry informally circulated the new plan among the IITs earlier in the week to break the deadlock.
The JAB, responsible for working out the details of the JEE, consists of IIT directors and JEE chairmen who supported the ministry's plans from the start. The revised plan is likely to be approved by the IIT Council, which meets on June 27.
Sources said the proposal -after approval by the Council - will once again be sent to the different IIT Senates for final ratification. The new proposal will be enforced from 2013.
"It appears our efforts are seeing some results and we will soon see an amicable solution," said a senior IIT-B professor.
In the new proposal, board performance will be used as cut-off only, as per the existing practice. But instead of looking at 60% cut-off, there will be a cut-off based possibly on the top 20 percentile of each board.

Hindustan Times :: 21 June 2012
New Sibal plan to make entry into IITs tougher
Charu Sudan Kasturi | Hindustan Times|New Delhi| Jun 21, 2012
A compromise formula aimed at breaking the deadlock between teachers and HRD minister Kapil Sibal over admissions to the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) could end up hurting hundreds of thousands of aspiring students. Under the new formula, only the top 20% students in their respective class 12 board exams would be eligible for appearing in the IIT entrance exam, top government and IIT sources told HT.
The compromise was brokered by the Prime Minister, who met members of the protesting All India IIT Faculty Federation (AIIFF) last week and asked Sibal to consider their demands.
Sibal had wanted an admission system where the board exam percentile was given weightage along with scores in a screening test while selecting candidates for a second, advanced entrance exam. This process allowed students who scored relatively lower in the boards to make up for it by doing better in the screening test.
But faced with persistent opposition from IIT faculty federations on weightage to board scores, Sibal has asked IIT-Delhi director RK Shevgaonkar to seek the opinion of faculty across the IITs on the compromise plan.
The new proposal, to be discussed by the IIT senates and faculty associations this week, places students in the top 20 percentile of board scores on an equal footing in the selection process.
This would negate Sibal’s intention of encouraging students to focus on their board exams, but rob 80% students of even a chance of trying for the IITs.
Since the class 12 results are unlikely to be declared in time for the two-tier IIT test, all students would need to appear for the exams even if their board marks turn them ineligible later.

Times of India :: 21 June 2012
IIT entrance test row: Kapil Sibal refuses to budge from 2013 date
TNN|New Delhi| Jun 21, 2012
With IIT-Delhi Senate scheduled to meet on Thursday to discuss its response to the common entrance test human resource development minister Kapil Sibal reiterated that the exam for the Indian Institutes of Technology (IIT) would be implemented from next year. 
In an interview, Sibal referred to the IIT system and said, "The excellence of the system is the quality of the system. I also give great credit to the faculty. It's the quality of the students...because best students come to the IITs and the best students will still come. So there is not dilution of the quality. But there are certain ills in the present system that needs to be addressed. The IITs should have come out with solutions in these 40 years. They can't claim whatever they are doing, there is nothing better than that." 
Sibal's insistence, however, seems to be contrary to the assurance offered by the Prime Minister Manmohan Singh at a meeting with IIT faculty recently that differences will be sorted out through a dialogue and the autonomy of the tech schools will not be eroded. 
IIT-Kanpur had recently decided to conduct its own entrance test, terming as "academically and methodically unsound" the May 28 decision of the IIT Council to hold the common entrance test. This makes the meeting of the IIT-Delhi Senate significant. If IIT-Delhi chooses to back Kanpur faculty members, the ministry will have to seriously reconsider at least some aspects of the current formula. 
Sources said that among some of the suggestions that had been discussed included holding the IIT main and advanced test on separate days and the way in which class XII board marks will be factored in. 
A section of the IIT faculty and the alumni have been opposing the move tooth and nail, demanding that the new system should not be implemented before 2014. They contend implementing the new system from next academic session will put a lot of pressure on students, who are already in midst of preparing for next year's IIT-JEE. 
The government is likely to ask the joint admission board of the IITs soon to prepare the modalities for conducting the advanced test under the proposed common entrance test. Sources also said that the Senates of IIT-Bombay, IIT-Madras and IIT-Kharagpur held internal meetings about the proposed exam and possible alternatives in the two-tier test. 
When asked if he was reconsidering his decision to hold the test from 2013 onwards, Sibal said, "This is not my decision (on holding the single entrance test). This is a decision of the IIT council which is a statutory authority under the IIT Act. The IITs have by and large accepted this decision.'' 
Sibal said the only opposition was coming from IIT-Kanpur Senate but noted that he was ready to reach out to all to resolve the differences. "I will reach out to all of them. I will talk to them. For the first time in the history of this country, I had personal interaction with faculty of all the IIT," he said. 
As per the new format for admission to IITs and institutes such as NITs and IIITs, students will sit for a main test and an advance test. Performance of the plus-two board results will also be taken into consideration. So far, IIT-Guwahati and IIT-Madras have expressed their full support to the new test. 
Stating that the single test was proposed to address certain "ills in the implementation of the present system, Sibal said he would welcome the IIT council to come over with a better solution.
Observing that that declining standard of school system has led to a plethora of coaching institutes, Sibal said of the 476 students admitted to IIT-Bombay, 300 have come from coaching institutes. He also felt that the common entrance test will do away with capitation fee.

Hindustan Times :: 20 June 2012
Govt may soften stand, asks IIT-D to call meeting
Vanita Srivastava | Hindustan Times|New Delhi| Jun 20, 2012
In what can be described as a ‘softening’ of stance, the government has asked the IIT-Delhi director to convene a meeting of the Joint Admission Board (JAB) to deliberate on the modalities and format of the JEE (advanced) exam. Besides this, there were indications that the JEE (advanced) test could be held on a separate day, and adopt a subjective format — in accordance with the demands of the IITs. It was also speculated that only IITs would be granted the responsibility of conducting the JEE (advanced) test, meant for the top 50,000 students screened from the JEE (main) examination.
According to sources, the manner in which the board marks would be used to decide on merit may also be ‘reconsidered’. Board marks, on the other hand, could be used just as a “filtering” measure — as is the current norm.
The speculations, however, can be confirmed only after the JAB meeting later this month. If this happens, the government would have fulfilled most of the major demands of the IITs.
The premier institutions had been demanding that board marks should not be included in the selection process, and the JEE (advanced) test should be subjective — to be conducted by the IITs themselves.
IIT-Delhi will conduct a senate meeting — with the JEE issue figuring in its list of agendas — on June 21. “The senate meeting will discuss issues related to undergraduate admission to IIT on June 21,” confirmed Dr Sanjeev Sanghi, president of the IIT-Delhi Faculty Forum.
A special senate meeting of IIT-Kanpur was convened for the purpose on June 8, during which it passed a resolution to conduct a separate exam in 2013.
IIT-Delhi Alumni Association president Somnath Bharti maintained that the general feeling among the IIT senates was that the exam should not be held in 2013. “They also hold that the IITs  should have complete control (not only academic) over the JEE (advanced) exam, and there should be proper debate — based upon data obtained from school boards — on the feasibility of giving weightage to school board marks in the JEE (mains),” he said.
Human resource development minister Kapil Sibal is keen on introducing the new examination pattern from next year.

Pioneer :: 20 June 2012
One nation-one test plan under IIT-B scrutiny
TN RAGHUNATHA |Mumbai| Jun 20, 2012
In an effort to break the deadlock over HRD Minister Kapil Sibal's controversial 'one nation-one test' proposal for IITs and other centrally-funded technical institutes, faculty members of IIT-Bombay are meeting on Wednesday to discuss various compromise formulae.
This is the first of the initiatives undertaken after Prime Minister Manmohan Singh assured the All India IIT Faculty Federation (AIIITFF) on June 15 that IITs' autonomy would remain intact. A majority of the IITs are opposing the new exam pattern, in which two sets of examinations — the main and advanced exams — are to be held on the same day and in which 50 per cent weightage will be given to Class XII marks. Among the formulae to be discussed are "if a student has to get admission to IITs, he has to be in the top 10-20 percentile as per board exams," a source said.
According to the second formula, the CET examination to be conducted by the HRD Ministry will be "used to screen and select the top 50,000-plus students (without considering board performance) who will be eligible to give the IIT's own JEE". Third, IITs' own JEE would be held on a separate date after results of the main exam. This will be owned and conducted by the IITs. Final merit list is to be based only on performance of this JEE subject to the percentile cut-off. IITs should be allowed to decide the format of JEE — subjective, objective, machine readable subjective.
If these proposals are incorporated, faculty members are not averse to introduction of the new exam pattern from 2013 itself

Telegraph :: 16 June 2012
Sibal offers trade-off to IITs
BASANT KUMAR MOHANTY|New Delhi| Jun 19, 2012
The IITs seem to have won a concession with Kapil Sibal informally offering to drop the planned weightage to admission seekers’ Class XII board marks if the institutes agree to the JEE reforms being implemented from 2013.
However, some members of the faculty — which had led the campaign against the board-mark weightage, even taking it to the Prime Minister — said they were sceptical of verbal communications and were waiting for a written undertaking.
Government sources said the Union human resource development minister’s climb-down came after the Prime Minister had a word with him before leaving for the G20 summit. Manmohan Singh had assured a team of IIT teachers that the dispute would be settled through dialogue and the institutes’ autonomy be kept intact.
Sibal has conceded a second IIT demand by agreeing to allow them to hold the JEE Advanced — the round II of the entrance exam — on any date they want rather than the same day as the CBSE-conducted JEE Main, the round I exam. The IITs had said it would be too stressful for the students to take both exams on the same day.
The ministry’s offer came in the form of a feeler to the chairman of the Joint Admission Board, a body made up by IIT directors that decides the modalities for the IIT-JEE. The chairman has been asked to coordinate with the faculty and senates and get their feedback.
Sources in the ministry as well as the faculty confirmed the offer made by Sibal, who is keen to hold the new JEE from 2013 instead of 2014, as demanded by most of the IIT senates.
Under the original reforms, decided by the Sibal-headed IIT Council on May 28, the IITs would have screened about 50,000 students for the JEE Advanced based on their board and JEE Main scores, each getting equal weightage. These 50,000 were to be ranked only on the basis of their JEE Advanced marks.
Under the modified system now mooted, the board marks will only be an eligibility criterion, as they now are in the existing IIT-JEE system (that is, those failing to secure a cut-off board score will not be considered for admission whatever their performance in the JEE Advanced). The entire screening, therefore, will be done on the basis of the JEE Main scores.
One point that remains unclear is whether the gap between the JEE Main and Advanced will be long enough for the IITs to have another of their wishes: allowing only those who have cleared the Main-based screening to appear in the Advanced.
Several IIT faculty associations — which account for the bulk of senate members — are scheduled to discuss the offer tomorrow. Some others, though, feared that the absence of a formal, written offer left the door open for the ministry or IIT Council to change its mind later.

371 - Indian Institute of Technology directors mull solution - India Today


New Delhi, June 24, 2012 

The joint admission board (JAB) of the Indian Institute of Technology (IITs) met in New Delhi on Saturday to devise a compromise formula in the wake of two key institutes - IIT-Delhi and IIT-Kanpur - breaking ranks with the government on the one-country, one-test decision.

Sources said IIT directors debated if HRD minister Kapil Sibal's decision to hold a common joint entrance exam for all centrally funded technology institutes from 2013 could be adopted with some alterations.

The board has been conducting the IIT entrance test for 50 years.

A compromise formula suggested by the HRD ministry was discussed at the emergency meeting. It involves taking the top 20-30 students based on percentile ranking of respective boards for preparing the merit list. This criterion, which can replace the proposed format of giving weightage to board results, was deliberated as an alternative and received an unanimous favourable response.

The percentile criterion along with the performance in the JEE-Main could likely be used for selecting around 50,000 students; students' scores in the advanced test conducted by IITs will be taken into account to prepare the merit list for admission to the IITs.

Some of the IIT directors were reportedly not keen to discuss the proposed test at the JAB and insisted that the issue be deliberated only at the special IIT council meet.

The IITs will now debate this compromise formula during the IIT council meeting called by the HRD minister on June 27.




370 - Latest news on IIT JEE - 26th June 2012



Economic Times - ‎2 hours ago‎
NEW DELHI: Keen to end the standoff with the IIT senates over the common entrance examination, the government has indicated that it is willing to rework its "one nation, one examination" proposal to address their concerns over the institutes' ...

IBNLive.com - ‎7 hours ago‎
PTI | 09:06 PM,Jun 25,2012 Institutions that have concerns may also indicate the Institutions that have concerns may also indicate the same so that they could be resolved at a separate meeting, the statement added. Today's meeting was held in the ...


Daily News & Analysis - ‎18 hours ago‎
The most compelling argument against the proposed Common Entrance Test to all engineering institutions like the Indian Institutes of Technology, the Indian Institutes of Information Technology and the National Institutes of Technology is that the ...

Indian Express - ‎Jun 24, 2012‎
Ahead of the crucial IIT Council meeting that could end the stalemate between IITs and the Ministry of Human Resource Development (MHRD) over the new test format and decide the fate of lakhs of students, the All India IIT Faculty Federation (AIIITFF) ...

Economic Times - ‎Jun 24, 2012‎
The IIT student-selection imbroglio has the familiar confusion on what the real problem issues are. Understandable, because the problem is complex and the solution not obvious because of a sensitive public good that has many stakeholders, ...

Times of India - ‎Jun 24, 2012‎
MUMBAI: With the board exams just eight months away, parents are paying extra money to coaching classes to prepare their children for the upcoming board exams too, defying the purpose of a common entrance test for admissions to centrally funded ...

Business Standard - ‎Jun 24, 2012‎
A compromise offer worked out by the Joint Admission Board (JAB) for admission to the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) has pacified agitating members of the All India IIT Faculty Federation (AIIITFF). Even so, the problem of autonomy of the IITs ...

Calcutta Telegraph - ‎27 minutes ago‎
New Delhi, June 25: Praveen Kumar, an IIT aspirant from Jammu, has the JEE to crack next year but his deep anxiety is affecting his preparations. Praveen, who cleared his Class XII boards with 70 per cent marks this year, arrived in Delhi a few months ...

Calcutta Telegraph - ‎28 minutes ago‎
New Delhi, June 25: Students seeking admission to centrally funded tech schools other than the IITs will have to take just one entrance test rather than two if a meeting chaired by Kapil Sibal on Wednesday accepts the proposal.

Deccan Herald - ‎4 hours ago‎
With the Senates of two Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) - Kanpur and Delhi - opposing the government's 'one nation, one test' proposal for admissions, there are indications that some changes may be affected in the new format of the joint ...


369 - Prof. Gautam Barua's Response to Open Letter from Prof Dheeraj Sanghi.

( from gbarua blogspot )

Response to Dheeraj Sanghi's Open Letter

According to the IIT Kanpur Website, there has been a “A devastating and rather harsh exposé of the 'scientific temper' (or the lack of it) shown by members of the IIT Council. 'JEE 2013: An Open Letter to Prof. Barua' by Prof. Dheeraj Sanghi, IIT Kanpur.”

Elsewhere in the same website we have “A very strong response by Prof. Dheeraj Sanghi, IIT Kanpur to the claims made by those defending the IIT Council proposal.”

Harsh and strong: I agree. I have no desire to engage in argument regarding my motives and my behaviour. I only wish to state that I reject all allegations of lying. I have defended the proposal because I think it is the best alternative under the present circumstances. I was not responsible for delaying the Aptitude Test. In fact not only me, but the IITG Senate wanted an Aptitiude test (see the IITG Senate resolution of Apr 25) . It should come in later years. I have no hidden agenda and I do not have any “irrestible urge to manage other IITs” (ridiculous! way beyond decency!).

I forgive Dheeraj for his trespasses for he knows not what ……

But I would like to focus on the meat of the proposal:

On the ISI Report and Percentile Ranks

Dheeraj Sanghi has stated that

They gave a report which said that more studies needed to be done with data from more boards for more years.

This had two problems.

One, MHRD would have taken a long time to get all this data. ….
He has obviously not read the report or has not understood its contents.
The ISI report made the following assumptions (the report is available here):

2 Assumptions needed for comparability of different board scores

The following assumptions would have to be made in order to make the aggregate scores of different boards comparable.

• Aggregate scores are expected to increase from less meritorious to more
meritorious students in any particular subject

• Merit distribution is the same in all boards.

The first assumption is that Boards awards marks according to merit.

This has been challenged by many with respect to State Boards without any analysis of any data (not sure it is even possible to do any analysis as merit cannot be established objectively: it has to be something society by and large agrees upon), but by anecdotal evidences of corruption, fraud etc.

The second assumption is that meritorious students are unformily distributed across all Boards (I have used the argument of the law of large numbers in relation to the population base of Boards (and not the size of the Boards) to argue in favour of this).

This has been challenged by some on the basis of the varying sizes of Boards, but again without any analysis of any data (again, not sure it is even possible to do any analysis).

The ISI report then goes on to state (bold mine):

3 Stability of board scores

Under the above assumptions, the percentile ranks of students in different board examinations become directly comparable. It would be of interest to observe how the raw aggregate scores relate to the percentile ranks, and how these relationships vary from year to year as well as across different boards.

There is therefore no need for any more analysis of data of other Boards to establish this assertion. I throw an open challenge to anyone to refute this assertion. It is so simple, what is there to refute? Any classs IX student should be able to understand. Unfortunately, many well respected IIT faculty have failed to understand this. Maybe they have not read the ISI report (the full report is enclosed in another post).

Now the ISI report does talk about analysing the data of other Boards, Why? First of all they repeat the above assertion again in section 4 (bold mine):

4 Criterion for selection

Under the two assumptions mentioned in Section 2, the percentile ranks of the students computed from aggregate scores are comparable across different boards and years. Any monotone transformation of the percentile ranks is also appropriate for comparison, as long as the same transformation is used across different boards and years. Let us now consider a few such transformations.

They then go on to consider a transformation (bold mine):

Any of the curves in the first figure is a monotone function of the percentile rank. One can use any one of them, say CBSE 2007, as standard. If the same transformation of percentile ranks is used for other boards and years, then the resulting modified score of any student of any board in any year can be regarded as the aggregate score, which could have been obtained by that student if he/she had appeared for the CBSE examinations in 2007. Thus, the transformed scores provide a common basis for comparison.

A feature of such a transformation is that, after this transformation, the scores are not evenly distributed throughout the available range of scores. In particular, when the scale of the CBSE 2007 aggregate score is used, less than 5% of the students have scores in the range of 90% to 100% of the maximum score. On the other hand, more than 10% of the students (spanning over the percentile range of 50 to 62) have scores squeezed in the narrow range of 65% to 70% of maximum score. This would lead to a loss of discriminating power in that percentile range, particularly if the board scores are used only as a component in a weighted selection criterion involving multiple components.

For maximal discrimination over the requisite range of percentile ranks, it is imperative that the scores have the uniform distribution over that range. This may be achieved if the percentile ranks themselves are used as scores. If there is a threshold percentile, say 75%, then the available range is maximally utilized by using the following linear transformation of the percentile rank:

(Percentile Rank of Student -75 / (100-75) ) * 100 -- (1)

According to this scale, a student with percentile rank 75 receives the score 0, a
student with percentile rank 90 receives 60, and the topper receives 100. Similar
computations can be done for other choices of the threshold percentile.

Then comes the recommendations, which has caused some confusion as some eminent folks seem to have read only the recommendations and not the rest of the report.

5 Recommendations
(a) The above analysis regarding stability of board scores should be carried out
for all the boards over a longer period of time.

(b) If the reported stability of the board scores is found to hold generally, then a transformed percentile rank with a suitable cut-off, as described in (1), may be used as a score representing performance in the board examination, for the
purpose of admission to tertiary education.

(c) The different boards should be asked to indicate the percentile rank of each
student in the mark sheet.

(d) In order to prepare a formal and reliable basis for selection at the tertiary level, educational institutions at that level, including the IITs, should be asked to provide to the HRD ministry a statement of marks obtained by each graduating student, together with the student’s score in the admission test of that institution (if any), the board score at the class XII level and the name of the board.

Now why is the analysis mentioned in (a) above required? Because of recommendation (b)! A transformation is recommended only if the analysis of (a) is done. But if there is to be no transformation but the percentile ranks themselves are used as scores, then there is no need to analyse any further data, as the two assumptions are there. One may point out that since ISI did not propose this, there must be a problem with using percentile ranks as scores. I think they wanted better discrimination through some transformation and so they only recommended some transformation. I confess I am not able to give a clear answer to this. But I am confident that what has been proposed is sound (see below).

Now to the formula in the proposal. The only difference is that ISI had suggested a cut-off and had recommended that a suitable cut-off be used, but the proposal uses no cut-off. Why was this done? This was done because with reservations, any cut-off could adversely affect the filling up of reserved seats. Further, while a cut-off would improve the level of discrimination, it was felt that since the proposal was likely to meet some resistance, it is better to reduce the discrimination, and let the exams be the discriminating components. So, there was no “Barua formula”, and there was nothing sinister about the proposal. The “formula” itself, which was not given by ISI (they might have felt that they would be insulting the readers of their reports if they did so – in hindsight, they should have done so!), is a standard one that can be found in any text book on Statistics. I cannot be given credit for this ( a case of reverse plagiarism?).