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Published: Saturday, Jun 23, 2012, 20:41 IST
Place: New Delhi | Agency: PTI
Ahead of next week's meeting called by the government on the single entrance exam row, Indian Institute of technology (IIT) directors on Saturday discussed a compromise formula which includes a proposal to take top 20-30 students based on percentile ranking of respective boards for preparing the merit list.
Indications are that the percentile criterion replacing the proposed format of giving weightage to board results were deliberated at the Joint Admission Board (JAB) meeting, comprising IIT directors, as an alternative, possibly drawing a near unanimity.
The proposal is believed to have been mooted by the HRD Ministry and floated among the directors to end the impasse.
The percentile criterion along with performance in the JEE-Main will be used for selecting around 50,000 students and their score at the advanced test conducted by IITs will be taken into account to prepare the merit list for admission to IITs.
IIT senates are expected to deliberate on this after its approval at the IIT council meet.
The JAB has been conducting the IIT entrance test for 50 years. The meeting also evaluated the conduct of IIT-JEE 2012.
Insiders also suggested that some directors were averse to discussing the proposed test at the JAB and insisted that issue be deliberated only at the special IIT council meet.
The IIT council, the highest decision-making body headed by HRD Minister Kapil Sibal includes Directors of all the 16 IITs, heads of educational bodies like UGC and AICTE among others.
On the other hand, the IIT faculty federation, in a statement, appreciated the council meeting called by Sibal and hoped for an amicable solution to emerge.
"We appreciate that the minister has called IIT Council meeting on June 27, 2012 to address the concerns of IIT community. Through this process of discussion and engagement, we are confident that an amicable solution will emerge that would be acceptable to all, without compromising on the IITs autonomy."
The JAB meeting today came in the backdrop of IIT Delhi and Kanpur rejecting the government proposal and deciding to have a separate exam. There are indications that IIT Bombay and IIT Kharagpur may follow their Delhi and Kanpur counterparts.
The IIT Council on June 23 will discuss the situation created by the divisions among the elite educational institutions by the government proposal and the future course of action to end uncertainty among the student community.
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ALL INDIA IIT FACULTY ASSOCIATION OPPOSES ENTRANCE EXAM CHANGES THAT HRD MINSITRY IS TRYING TO IMPOSE ON IITS.. TIME FOR IIT ALUMNI FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD TO UNITE AND OPPOSE THIS MOVE WITH ALL OUR MIGHT.
“ a compromise formula which includes a proposal to take top 20% students based on percentile ranking of respective boards for preparing the merit list”
How meaningless is this solution ?. Higher education in India will become the domain of the school toppers and Children of affluent parents and we wonder why half a million students leave India to study undergraduate courses overseas. Children who will never return to a country that shunned them.
Is this is what we call inclusive in RTE ?.
God Save India
Inclusive education does not mean that everyone must enter, or pass out from, an IIT. It only means that if you wanted to, you could have a shot at it. The child labourer is excluded because she can never dream of entering an IIT; she may absolutely hate IIT, but not trying to join an IIT should be her decision. Even if there is only one IIT train, every child must have access to the platform where the train comes. Of course, not everyone will get on to the train but everyone knows what to do to have a shot at the train. This is called inclusion in education. Everyone must go to school till class 12; those who work hard, and are willing to work harder still, will join an IIT. Others will, by choice, decide not to work that hard and become economists.
Shubhashis Gangopadhyay
All children are born equal and mindless politicians are trying to grade the children and youth of the nation and create a new Brahamanical Caste system in Education, which is pandering to the neo rich who can afford to send their children to elite private schools and Coaching schools.
"HRD Ministry of India wants to build castles of higher education on the bamboo scaffoldings of its schools" ~ Satish Jha
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Wednesday, June 20, 2012
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Tuesday, June 19, 2012
323 -CET row: Govt mulls new formula - ZEE News
CET row: Govt mulls new formula
New Delhi: In view of stiff opposition to the proposed Common Entrance Test for admission in IITs and other centrally-funded technical institutes, the government is mulling a new formula to end the controversy.
Reports on Tuesday claimed that among the measures being considered, the government is mulling to allow screening based on class tenth results. Besides, the IITs and other centrally-funded technical institutes may also be allowed to conduct their own advance examination.
The development comes nearly a week after the IIT faculty federation, opposed to the proposed CET, met senior PMO officials and later the Prime Minister seeking a roll back of the decision.
The All India IIT Faculty Federation (AIIITFF) also wrote a letter to the Prime Minister on May 31 saying that "each IIT is an individual and independent academic entity and should reserve its right to follow its own norms with regards to admissions and other academic matter".
The government had on May 28 announced that from 2013, aspiring candidates for IITs and other central institutes like NITs and IIITs will have to sit under a new format of Common Entrance Test, which will also take the plus-two board results into consideration.
Sibal had claimed that it was approved without dissent at a council consisting of the IITs, the IIITs and the NITs. IIT Kanpur faculty opposed the council's decision of adopting the new test format
| Later in a statement, the AIIITFF demanded that since the new common
entrance test was decided upon without proper consultation process, each
IIT should now be given choices of accepting the proposed test as it
is, accept it with specific conditions or riders or reject the proposed
test and have own admission processes. It reiterated that the any changes should be only from 2014 or later and the current test pattern such as JEE, AIEEE, other state entrance test should continue at least for the year 2013. |
The federation also contested the two-tier format for the common test, (appearing in both main and advance test)stating that only the main be used for all institutes except the IITs to select students.
It said the advance test should be required only for the IITs.
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IIT entrance exam row: Breakthrough soon?
Sources have told NDTV, that the IITs will conduct the advance test separately and it will not be held on the day of the main entrance test. Another crucial point that the IITs have been against is the inclusion of Class XII marks for the advance test. Sources say that Class XII marks will not be considered.
The softening of stance by the HRD ministry, headed by Kapil Sibal, comes after the All India Faculty Federation (AIFF) of the IITs met Prime Minister Manmohan Singh over the issue on Friday. Dr Singh had assured the IITs that the autonomy of the institution will be upheld.
Mr Sibal had said that the common entrance exam for engineering colleges was aimed at reducing the pressure on students who finish Class XII and then have to take multiple exams for different engineering colleges.
Mr Sibal's 'one nation, one test' proposal has been opposed by various bodies of the IITs. IIT Kanpur has already announced that it will conduct its own entrance test from next year. The IIT Delhi senate, which is due to meet on June 21, is likely to follow suit.
The HRD minister, on his part, has said the decision comes after two years of deliberations with the IITs and is a unanimous one. He, however, has also said that he is "ready to talk if anyone says that the IITs' autonomy is being jeopardised."
Every year, over five lakh students take the entrance exam for IITs - there are 10,000 seats available, including quota seats.
Sunday, June 17, 2012
314 - One nation, One test - DEccan Herald
But, the implementation of the proposed test, which seeks to merge IIT-JEE (Joint Entrance Examination for admission to IITs) and AIEEE (All India Engineering Entrance Examination), has encountered a major roadblock as a section of the faculty, students and alumni of the IITs are up in arms against the examination format, citing several lacunae.
The joint entrance examination proposal has its genesis in the ‘in-principle’ approval accorded to it by the Council of IITs in its meeting held on September 14 last year.
This was based on the T Ramasami Committee report, which recommended a common national examination with weightage to marks obtained in the state board exams, and normalised on the basis of percentile formula developed by the Indian Statistical Institute, Kolkata.
Though many IIT faculty members and alumni did not favour a common test, an opinion poll on the Ramasami report, conducted through the Central Government’s portal last year, saw 85 per cent of the participants favouring the reforms in the current entrance test system, while 73 per cent supported holding a national test like the scholastic aptitude test conducted in the United States.
IIT faculty came up with differing views on the proposed normalisation of the Board marks through percentile formula, weightage to be given to the Board examination, eligibility criteria, methodology of selection and the year of introduction of the proposed test.
A faculty member of IIT-Kanpur contended that the one nation one test would put rural children at a disadvantage as it was bound to have elements of the existing JEE that tests conceptual rigour. Rural students are not exposed to the kind of rigour needed to understand fundamental principles in any domain. However, a majority of the respondents (66 per cent), who participated in the opinion poll, had favoured giving weightage to overall and consistent performance in examinations of school boards.
All the states had consented to the proposed common test, and many, including Maharashtra and Gujarat, expressed their eagerness to adopt it in the technical institutions coming under their jurisdiction.
Even as the government was giving a final shape to the proposed reforms in February this year, the Senates of the various IITs reviewed the proposal between April 25 and May 5.
Of the seven old IITs, the Senates of IIT Guwahati, Kharagpur, Madras and Roorkee supported the proposed joint entrance examination. IIT Bombay proposed to retain the present system “with minor modifications”, while IIT Kanpur’s Senate wanted “substantial modification”, an HRD Ministry official told Deccan Herald.
The views of the IIT Senates were placed before the IIT Council held on May 12, and again at the joint meeting of the Council with NITs and IIITs on May 28.
The Council in its May 12 meeting observed: “By and large, the middle ground of opinions expressed by IIT Senates recommend that the Class XII Board results along with the National Test (Mains) be considered as screening or gating with the National Test (Advanced level) being solely used for ranking purposes for admission to undergraduate programmes.”
It also took note of the proposals of some of the Senates that a limited number of candidates (about five times the number of seats for admission in the IIT system) from the screening be considered eligible to appear in the Advanced test to be conducted by the IITs. It further agreed that the details of the Advanced test would be finalised in due course of time through discussion among the IITs so that it could be implemented from the year 2014.
Subsequently, the members of the Council decided to adopt the two-part joint entrance examination to be held on the same day, from year 2013.
Under this two-tier selection procedure, the Council allowed the IITs to first assess candidates on the basis of the JEE Main and their Class XII marks normalised on percentile basis, giving equal weightage to both, and screen a fixed number of students. The Council made it clear that the ranking for admission to undergraduate programmes in IITs would be based entirely on the performance in JEE-Advanced by the screened candidates.
But for other Centrally funded technical institutions (CFTIs), it was decided that they would continue to be governed by the proposed policy of ranking based on 40 per cent weightage to Class XII Board marks, 30 per cent weightage to performance in JEE-Mains and another 30 per cent weightage for performance in JEE-Advanced.
The Council decided that both JEE-Main and JEE-Advanced tests would be objective and multiple choice type. It was agreed that the Joint Admission Board (JAB) of the IIT system would have “complete control” over the academic components of the test such as paper setting, evaluation and preparation of the merit list, among others, while the CBSE will provide the administrative and logistic support for the conduct of examination across the country.
But, this did not convince opponents of the common test. The Council’s decision was dubbed as an “attack on the autonomy” of IITs by their alumni association. The All India IIT Faculty Federation has sought that the government restore IITs’ autonomy by “officially” seeking ratification or acceptance from the various IIT Senates on the joint entrance examination finalised by IIT Council.
The Senate of IIT-Kanpur has raised a banner of revolt against the Council’s decision and even passed a resolution to hold its own examination for admissions to the institution’s under graduate programmes in 2013.
The Senate authorised the Institute’s director to set up a committee in consultation with the dean of academics for finalising the modalities of the entrance examination. The committee, to the extent possible, shall coordinate with other IITs to conduct the test jointly. The resolution passed by the Senate, however, is subject to approval by the Board of Governors of the IIT before it comes into effect, as per the Institute of Technology Act, 1961.
Legal route
The IIT Alumni Association has threatened to move court against the IIT Council decision.
Association president Somnath Bharti contended that under the IT Act, the IIT Council can only advice or recommend. It is the Senate of each IIT which has powers to promulgate ordinance relating to various matters, including admissions, which, of course, has to be approved by the Board of Governors.
HRD Ministry officials, however, counter the argument stating that the IIT Council can lay down policy under the IT Act in “matters of common interest”, and issue of admissions to the IITs is a matter of common interest. “IIT Council is the highest decision making body of the IITs,” an official said.
313 - IITs’ autonomy will not be eroded, PM assures faculty - Hindu Busioness Line
IITs’ autonomy will not be eroded, PM assures faculty
Aesha DattaSaturday, June 16, 2012
308 - IIT faculty federation meets Manmohan Singh - NEWS TRACK INDIA
IIT faculty federation meets Manmohan Singh
New Delhi, June 15 (ANI): Members of the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) Faculty Federation met the Prime Minister, Dr. Manmohan Singh, here on Friday to discuss the Central Government's proposal of a Common Engineering Entrance exam.
Federation Secretary, A K Mittal, after the meeting said the Prime Minister has assured that he will talk to HRD Minister Kapil Sibal.
"We expressed our concerns to him, he gave us a very patient hearing and then what he told us what that he does respect the autonomy of higher education institutions. He is very much concerned and he will talk to the minister about all the issues and also requested us to continue talking and engage in dialogues, so that is what he has said," said Mittal after meeting Dr. Singh.
The Prime Minister has assured that the prestige of the IIT would not be jeopardised, as it is respected across the world.
Calling the meeting with the Prime Minister fruitful, another IIT professor, K Narasimhan, said: "We are extremely confident because our Prime Minister have appreciated the key concerns that we have been expressing and he has kindly agreed to take the matter to HRM (Human Resource Management)."
"So, we have 200 percent faith in our Prime Minister, and, we are sure that dialogue will open up again and fruitful solutions will emerge," he added.
Narasimhan further said that one of their key demands is to restore the autonomy of IIT, and allow them to conduct their own test.
"The year 2013 is too early and enough time needs to be given to the students, to the stakeholders, so our primary concern, one of our demand pointing out is that, we would like to see the reform process kick in from 2014, although the announcement for such a reform should be made at the earliest that there will be a major structural change etc.," he said.
The IIT faculty federation is opposing the proposed common entrance to these institutes.
The federation has contended that the common entrance test for admission to the undergraduate programme to the IITs and other Centrally-funded institutes will undermine the autonomous status enjoyed by the IITs. (ANI)
Friday, June 15, 2012
306 - Autonomy of IITs will remain intact, PM assures federation - India Today
PTI New Delhi, June 15, 2012 | UPDATED 15:32 IST
Autonomy of IITs will remain intact, PM assures federation
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Friday gave an assurance that the
autonomy of IITs will remain 'intact', the IIT faculty federation, opposing the proposed
common entrance to these institutes, said after meeting him.
"We
explained each of our points to him (PM). He has told us he will talk to
Human Resources Development (HRD) Minister and assured that the
autonomy of the IITs will remain intact," secretary of All India IIT
Faculty Federation (AIIITFF) A K Mittal told reporters after the
federation met Singh.
The federation has contended that the
common entrance test for admission to the undergraduate programme to
the IITs and other Centrally-funded institutes will undermine the
autonomous status enjoyed by the IITs.
The meeting came in the
backdrop of HRD Minister Kapil Sibal cutting short his US visit and
returning to India late last night.
During the meeting, the
federation raised the issue of autonomy and said the decision taken by
the IIT council about holding the one nation one examination should be
ratified by all the IIT senates.
"We also insisted that any
change in the entrance test should be effected only after 2013," Mittal
said.
The federation also raised the issue of giving weightage to
board marks after the process of normalisation for preparing the merit
list, saying "normalisation of board marks needs more studies", he said.
Mittal
felt all the IITs are free to emulate IIT
Kanpur' s move to hold its own entrance test following the
government's decision to hold the nation-wide common entrance test under
a new format.
The federation, which is of the view that the new
format will increase stress of students instead of decreasing it, has
said that students aspiring to join institutes other than the IITs need
not sit for two tests -- main and advance --as proposed.
It said
that only the main be used for all institutes except the IITs to select
students. It said the advance test should be required only for the IITs.
"The
IITs advance test should be subjective type, just for the candidates
aspiring to join the IITs. This advance test will be held on a day
different from the main test and will be administered to only
shortlisted candidates from the main test (50,000-70,000) by IITs only,"
the federation has said in a statement yesterday after meeting PMO
officials.
Mittal had said the meeting with PM's advisor T K A
Nair was "productive and encouraging".
305 - Autonomy of IITs will remain intact: PM to Federation - IBN LIVE
Autonomy of IITs will remain intact: PM to Federation
Education | Posted on Jun 15, 2012 at 02:57pm IST
"We explained each of our points to him(PM). He has told us he will talk to HRD Minister and assured that the autonomy of the IITs will remain intact," secretary of All India IIT Faculty Federation (AIIITFF) AK Mittal informed after the federation met Singh.
The federation has contended that the common entrance test for admission to the undergraduate programme to the IITs and other Centrally-funded institutes will undermine the autonomous status enjoyed by the IITs.
During the meeting, the federation raised the issue of autonomy and said the decision taken by the IIT council about holding the one nation one examination should be ratified by all the IIT senates.
"We also insisted that any change in the entrance test should be effected only after 2013," Mittal said.
The federation also raised the issue of giving weightage to board marks after the process of normalisation for preparing the merit list, saying "normalisation of board marks needs more studies", he said.
Mittal felt all the IITs are free to emulate IIT Kanpur's move to hold its own entrance test following the government's decision to hold the nation-wide common entrance test under a new format.
The federation, which is of the view that the new format will increase stress of students instead of decreasing it, has said that students aspiring to join institutes other than the IITs need not sit for two test - main and advance – as proposed.
It said that only the main be used for all institutes except the IITs to select students. It said the advance test should be required only for the IITs.
"The IITs advance test should be subjective type, just for the candidates aspiring to join the IITs. This advance test will be held on a day different from the main test and will be administered to only shortlisted candidates from the main test (50,000-70,000) by IITs only," the federation has said in a statement on June 14 after meeting PMO officials.
Mittal had said the meeting with PM's advisor TKA Nair was "productive and encouraging”.
304 - PM gives assurance to protect autonomy of IITs - Hindu Business Line
PM gives assurance to protect autonomy of IITs
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IITs not for social engineering
Still multiple tests
School-leaving exams
Soft power
298 - CET row: IIT faculty federation to meet PM today - ZEE News
CET row: IIT faculty federation to meet PM today
New Delhi: The IIT faculty federation, opposed to the proposed common entrance test (CET) for admission in IITs and other centrally-funded technical institutes, will meet Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh on Friday.
The members of the All India Faculty Federation of the IITs, which had written to Manmohan Singh earlier this month, yesterday met officials of Prime Minister’s Office on the issue and sought a roll back of the decision.
Today's meeting with Dr Manmohan Singh assumes significance in the wake of HRD Minister Kapil Sibal virtually ruling out going back on the Centre's new proposal.
AIIITFF had written to the Prime Minister on May 31 saying that "each IIT is an individual and independent academic entity and should reserve its right to follow its own norms with regards to admissions and other academic matter".
Sibal, who is currently on a visit to the US, has said that the government has no intent to impinge on the autonomy of the IITs.
The government had on May 28 announced that from 2013, aspiring candidates for IITs and other central institutes like NITs and IIITs will have to sit under a new format of common entrance test, which will also take the plus-two board results into consideration.
Sibal had claimed that it was approved without dissent at a council consisting of the IITs, the IIITs and the NITs.
Delhi IIT alumni association also shared a letter with the press and addressed to HRD Minister Kapil Sibal, which shows IIT Kanpur's dissent over the council's decision of adopting the new test format.
| Later in a statement yesterday, the federation demanded that since the
new common entrance test was decided upon without proper consultation
process, each IIT should now be given choices of accepting the proposed
test as it is, accept it with specific conditions or riders or reject
the proposed test and have own admission processes. It reiterated that the any changes should be only from 2014 or later and the current test pattern such as JEE, AIEEE, other state entrance test should continue at least for the year 2013. The federation insisted that board performance should be used as cut-off only instead of giving weightage to it after the process of normalisation as has been proposed under the new format. |
It said the advance test should be required only for the IITs.
Sibal on his part has said the decision comes after two years of deliberations with the IITs and is a unanimous one. The minister, however, said that he is willing to talk with dissenting bodies on the issue.
With PTI Input
296 - IIT faculty federation to meet Prime Minister; seek roll back of common entrance test - NDTV
IIT faculty federation to meet Prime Minister; seek roll back of common entrance test
Members from the All India Faculty Federation of the IITs, which had written to Manmohan Singh earlier this month, and met officials of his office today, will be meeting him on Friday to express their dissent and ask for intervention.
The federation is opposing Mr Sibal's proposal that a common entrance examination be held from 2013 for admission to the centrally funded engineering institutes. These include the 15 Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) and all the National Institutes of Technology (NITs). As per this proposal equal weightage will be given to marks obtained in the Class XII examinations and those of the entrance tests. Mr Sibal had said that the common entrance exam for engineering colleges was aimed at reducing the pressure on students who finish Class 12 and then have to take multiple exams for different engineering colleges.
The group will also suggest a one nation, one board instead, so that class 12 students from across India can be evaluated by a common board.
Mr Sibal's proposals which are set to be applicable from next year, also says that all aspirants will have to appear for a main test and an advanced test. In what appears to be a complete rollback, the federation is demanding that advance test should be a 'Subjective Type' test as opposed to the proposal by the ministry which calls for a multiple type test.
The meeting with the Prime Minister is significant as various bodies of the IITs have opposed these new proposals. IIT Kanpur has already announced that it will conduct its own entrance test from next year. The IIT Delhi senate, which is due to meet on June 21, is likely to follow suit.
Mr Sibal on his part has said the decision comes after two years of deliberations with the IITs and is a unanimous one. The minister, who is currently in the US has said he is willing to talk with dissenting bodies on the issue.







