“ a compromise formula which includes a proposal to take top 20% students based on percentile ranking of respective boards for preparing the merit list”

How meaningless is this solution ?. Higher education in India will become the domain of the school toppers and Children of affluent parents and we wonder why half a million students leave India to study undergraduate courses overseas. Children who will never return to a country that shunned them.

Is this is what we call inclusive in RTE ?.

God Save India

Inclusive education does not mean that everyone must enter, or pass out from, an IIT. It only means that if you wanted to, you could have a shot at it. The child labourer is excluded because she can never dream of entering an IIT; she may absolutely hate IIT, but not trying to join an IIT should be her decision. Even if there is only one IIT train, every child must have access to the platform where the train comes. Of course, not everyone will get on to the train but everyone knows what to do to have a shot at the train. This is called inclusion in education. Everyone must go to school till class 12; those who work hard, and are willing to work harder still, will join an IIT. Others will, by choice, decide not to work that hard and become economists.

Shubhashis Gangopadhyay


All children are born equal and mindless politicians are trying to grade the children and youth of the nation and create a new Brahamanical Caste system in Education, which is pandering to the neo rich who can afford to send their children to elite private schools and Coaching schools.

"HRD Ministry of India wants to build castles of higher education on the bamboo scaffoldings of its schools" ~ Satish Jha

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Tuesday, July 3, 2012

392 - IIT admn reforms: Panel ignored experts' concerns - Hindustan Times



Charu Sudan Kasturi, Hindustan Times
New Delhi, July 02, 2012

Indian Statistical Institute (ISI) Calcutta experts had cautioned against comparing class XII exam performances across different Boards for admissions to the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) and other engineering schools – but their concerns were ignored.

The ISI experts, asked by the human resource development (HRD) ministry panel that devised the government’s admissions reform plan, concluded that scores of students across different schools Boards could not be compared.

Told then by the government panel headed by science secretary T Ramasami to simply tell them the best way to compare scores across Boards, the experts -- Probal Chaudhari and Debasis Sengupta -- submitted revised recommendations, the ISI professors told HT. But these recommendations – for a broader study -- were also ignored, documents accessed by HT show.

The government and the IIT Council – the apex decision-making body of the IITs – have consistently maintained in public that the ISI experts had approved their plan to compare scores across different Boards. Asked today about the experts’ recommendations that the government ignored, Ramasami, currently in Germany, argued that the suggestions were not binding.

“We are very clear that what we have done is fine,” Ramasami said. “We don’t have to accept what the experts recommended. What they say doesn’t become law.”  


Over 10 lakh students appear for engineering entrance tests each year. The latest admission criteria require students to score among the top 20 percentile in their Board to be eligible for IIT admissions. This eligibility criterion is based on the assumption that students in the top 20 percentile in each board are comparable. Board percentile scores will receive 50 percent weightage in selections to the National Institutes of Technology (NITs) and other schools that join the HRD ministry’s common engineering test from 2013.

The experts were provided class XII scores from the Central Board of Secondary Education (CBSE), the Indian Certificate of Secondary Education and the West Bengal and Tamil Nadu boards. Based on a statistical analysis, they concluded a “lack of comparability of scores from different boards in India” for individual subjects, and so for aggregate scores.

“We were then told very clearly that we were not to worry about whether scores could be compared, but to only provide the best way to compare them,” Sengupta said.

The experts’ revised report, submitted in November 2011, suggested percentile ranks as the best way to compare scores across boards. But they recommended that their analysis be carried out for all of India’s 29 school boards, over a longer period of time before using board scores.
“The above analysis regarding stability of board scores should be carried out for all boards over a longer period of time,” the report recommends.
No such detailed study has been conducted. “What we did was a very elementary analysis of a way of normalizing scores across boards,” Chaudhari told HT.

Sengupta said he would not like to comment on the government’s decision to go ahead with using board scores in screening and selecting students to the IITs and other engineering schools. “That’s their prerogative.”

As a method to best compare scores across boards, Sengupta and Chaudhari said that they did not expect the findings in their November 2011 report to vary for boards other than the ones they studied. “My hunch is that results are not going to be very different,” Sengupta said.
“But if you look at all boards, you get greater confidence.”

At present, students require to score 60 percent or more in their board examinations to become eligible for IIT admissions. They then need to clear the IIT Joint Entrance Examination (JEE) and are ranked based on their performance in this test. The NITs and other central government engineering schools admit students based on the All India Engineering Entrance Examination (AIEEE). State government colleges need to admit 50 percent students based on AIEEE scores, and use their own admission tests for remaining seats. Private engineering schools admit students based on their own admission tests.

This multiplicity of entrance tests forces students to travel across the country and appear for several examinations – a scourge HRD minister Kapil Sibal wanted to end through one national examination. The absence of any significant relevance of board scores in IIT admissions has also, over the past few years, pushed students away from school studies towards focused coaching for entrance examinations. By incorporating board scores in IIT selections, Sibal wanted to ensure that scool studies could no longer be ignored.

The HRD minister set up a committee under IIT Kharagpur Director Damodar Acharya to evolve an entrance mechanism that would replace multiple tests and make students focus on school studies. But the Acharya panel’s report – which did not specify a detailed roadmap for the reforms – met with resistance.
Sibal then set up a committee under science secretary Ramasami, which consulted faculty across the IITs and prospective students, and asked the ISI experts to vet a proposal to use board scores apart from a two-tier test for selection to the IITs.

Under Ramasami’s proposal, board percentile scores would receive 40 percent weightage, a mains test conducted by the CBSE would receive 30 percent weightage and an advanced test conducted by the IITs themselves would count for the remaining marks.

But faculty members across several IITs protested the plan to give any weightage to board scores in the final selection of students to the premier engineering schools. The senates of IIT Kanpur and IIT Delhi even resolved to boycott Sibal’s plan and instead hold their own entrance test for undergraduate admissions in 2013.

Nudged by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, the government and the IIT faculty reached a compromise under which board percentile scores will only be used to screen the top 20 per cent students from each board, who will then be eligible for admissions to the IITs if they clear the advanced test.




Thursday, June 21, 2012

338 - Indian Institutes of Technology aspirants' study plans fall into disarray - TOI


Vishwas Kothari, TNN | Jun 20, 2012, 03.09AM IST

PUNE: Students of standard XII preparing to write the joint entrance examination for the Indian Institutes of Technology in 2013 are in a quandary.
The state government has not yet decided what should be the relative weightage for higher secondary certificate (HSC, Std XII) board exam and the proposed national Joint Entrance Exam (JEE) scores for admissions.

There is no clarity on the syllabus for the proposed national JEE also referred to as ISEET which the Human Resource Development ministry is determined to introduce from 2013.

The ministry's plans have run into opposition in some IITs which has increased the uncertainty.

Academicians said these issues must be sorted before the commencement of standard XII classes. "There is tremendous stress and anxiety among students and parents due to the prevailing uncertainty over the proposed national JEE," said Durgesh Mangeshkar, head of the IITians Prashikshan Kendra. "Teachers and academic mentors are puzzled about how to approach their teaching plan," he added.

The HRD ministry has declared that for all centrally funded institutons like the IITs, IIITs, NITs and central universities, there would be 40% weightage for performance in standard XII board marks normalized on percentile basis through an appropriate formula.

Another 30% weightage will be for performance in the JEE-Main and 30% weightage in JEE-Advanced. A combined merit will be decided accordingly.

However, the ministry has left it to the states to decide whether they want to go with this formula or work out an alternative formula of their own for the relative weightage, for admissions to the larger section of private unaided engineering colleges.

While the Maharashtra government has conveyed its willingness to join the proposed national JEE, it has since set up a high-powered committee, which is now examining various pros and cons to arrive at the all-important weightage formula for the state.

The syllabus for the proposed national JEE has yet to be declared even though standard XII classes in junior colleges in the state are due for commencement from June 15. Private coaching classes, which have acquired immese importance vis-a-vis junior colleges, have started their classes without having a clear idea about the syllabus.

Questions persist as to whether the proposed national JEE syllabus will cover both standard XI and XII course contents, or will take standard XI content in portions; whether there is a need for separate coaching for IITs and standard XII and how to plan the studies.

Unlike the National Eligiblity and Entrance Test (NEET) for medical courses, which is a certainty from 2013 and where the syllabus has been worked out and declared jointly by the Medical Council of India and the Central Board of Secondary Education (CBSE)__the syllabus for the proposed national JEE is expected to be prepared by the IITs, which have been given the control of academic matters related to the exam. The CBSE's role has been restricted to administrative and logistical support.

"The revolt by a section of the IITs against the HRD ministry's proposed national JEE plan has taken a precedence over issues like syllabus for the exam," said Mangeshkar. "There is reasonable guarantee that the IITs won't deviate drastically from the syllabus and paper pattern that is in vogue for their prevailing entrance exams. We are telling students to continue with their present study plan for now," he added.

Another head of a private coaching class said on condition of anonimity, "We are assuming that the syllabus for physics and chemistry for the proposed national JEE, will be the same as has been declared for the NEET. We are combining the standard XII state board and CBSE syllabi for teaching in our classes."

Many students and parents are approaching private coaching experts for counseling on how to plan their study in view of the prevailing uncertainty and whether they should opt for repeating Std XII, which is an option given by the HRD ministry. "To repeat standard XII means a lot of stress," said Mangeshkar.
The ministry's 40:30:30 weightage formula certainly does not suit the interest of unaided engineering colleges in the state as it is fraught with a highly restrictive effect on the number of students qualifying for admission.

Already, there is a glut of engineering seats and the state has been reporting vacancies in excess of 10,000 to 15,000 seats for the last few years. This year, the directorate of technical education (DTE) has declared an overall admission capacity of 1,33,904 seats for 348 engineering colleges in the state. These numbers are bound to grow next year when the proposed national JEE takes off.

The college managements will be looking for a more student-friendly formula for relative weightages to ensure that fewer number of engineering seats remain vacant. The state has received suggestions to opt for a 50:50 weightage or 100 pc weightage for HSC score.

But the Indian Statiscal Institute, which has been entrusted with the task of working out a formula for nomalisation of marks given by different boards, has yet to come up with the same. Relying solely on the HSC marks for engineering admission is not viewed by many as prudent.