“ a compromise formula which includes a proposal to take top 20% students based on percentile ranking of respective boards for preparing the merit list”

How meaningless is this solution ?. Higher education in India will become the domain of the school toppers and Children of affluent parents and we wonder why half a million students leave India to study undergraduate courses overseas. Children who will never return to a country that shunned them.

Is this is what we call inclusive in RTE ?.

God Save India

Inclusive education does not mean that everyone must enter, or pass out from, an IIT. It only means that if you wanted to, you could have a shot at it. The child labourer is excluded because she can never dream of entering an IIT; she may absolutely hate IIT, but not trying to join an IIT should be her decision. Even if there is only one IIT train, every child must have access to the platform where the train comes. Of course, not everyone will get on to the train but everyone knows what to do to have a shot at the train. This is called inclusion in education. Everyone must go to school till class 12; those who work hard, and are willing to work harder still, will join an IIT. Others will, by choice, decide not to work that hard and become economists.

Shubhashis Gangopadhyay


All children are born equal and mindless politicians are trying to grade the children and youth of the nation and create a new Brahamanical Caste system in Education, which is pandering to the neo rich who can afford to send their children to elite private schools and Coaching schools.

"HRD Ministry of India wants to build castles of higher education on the bamboo scaffoldings of its schools" ~ Satish Jha

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Thursday, June 21, 2012

342 - IIT-B agrees to new test, with riders - Indian Express


Mihika Basu : Mumbai, Thu Jun 21 2012, 00:17 hrs

The IIT-Bombay faculty forum, which met on Wednesday to see if a compromise formula can be worked out, decided they are ready to implement the new JEE from 2013, provided that the HRD Ministry agrees to their other conditions.

The suggestions of the IIT-Bombay senate, which had been disregarded by the Ministry, included implementing the new test from 2014 and not next year, making JEE-Advanced a subjective-type paper and not giving weightage to the Std XII board exams.

“It was decided on Wednesday that we can support the introduction of the new exam format from 2013, provided that the first test (JEE-Main), to be used for filtering students, will not give any weightage to board marks. It was agreed that the board performance will be used as cut-off only, as per the existing practice. 

It was also decided that the second test for selected students will be conducted exclusively by the IITs. According to the ministry, the second test will be held on the same day as the main exam and the scores can be used by all engineering institutes. This is not acceptable to us,” said a faculty member.

Faculty members decided that the IITs “own JEE” (second test) will be held on a separate date from main exam, possibly by the end of May after the results of the first test are available.


Thursday, June 14, 2012

286 - A testing time for India’s exams - Gulf News


The government wants to standardise entrance examinations for top technology institutions — but academics are upset
  • By S. Narendra, Correspondent
  • Published: 00:00 June 14, 2012

Mumbai: India’s Human Resources Minister Kapil Sibal finds himself on the back foot over a controversial plan to standardise examinations — the so called “one nation one test” proposal — for the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs), National Institutes of Technology (NITs) and Indian Institutes of Information Technology (IIITs).

Through his decision to scrap the existing IIT Joint Entrance Examination (JEE), Sibal has drawn criticism from IITs, he has shown a willingness to address concerns, commenting in Washington on Tuesday that the IIT council should be permitted to set the new exams.

But the aggrieved institutions now say he has gone too far, charging him with “infringing”on their autonomy. Senators of the influential IITs of Kanpur, Delhi and Bombay are loudly opposing a Common Entrance Test (CET) for all IITs, NITs and IIITs from 2013. They have taken a stand that the CET would increase stress among students seeking admissions to IITs.
The IITs opposing the new exam pattern approved by the IIT Council, at its meeting chaired by Sibal on May 28, have not taken kindly to the introduction of two sets of examinations — the main and advanced exams — on the same day.

280 - How Kapil Sibal rode roughshod over IIT autonomy - First Post


How Kapil Sibal rode roughshod over IIT autonomy

by Jun 12, 2012



The problem with Union HRD Minister Kapil Sibal is that he tries to be too clever by half. It was clear right from the beginning that he wanted a common entrance examination for engineering, and that is what he has now engineered by trampling on the autonomy of the IIT Senates and using the IIT Council – where the votes are stacked in favour of the government – to push his idea through.

Sibal’s technique was this. First, pretend to hold a dialogue without actually listening; next, push the idea through a rubber-stamping body and then claim that the whole process was done through dialogue and consensus. A dialogue of the deaf is no dialogue at all.

An Indian Express story explains the sequence of events to prove that Sibal did how own thing and ignored the actual consensus. He may insist that he had consulted all stakeholders before deciding on the common entrance exam for all engineering colleges, but the fact is the IIT senates and faculty members had raised objections to the new format on various occasions and these were studiously ignored.

Each IIT has a senate,  created under the IIT Act, which consists of representatives from the faculty of the IITs and students. The senate discusses the operation of each of the institutes. It is headed by the Director of each IIT.

Representative image of IIT Bombay. AFP

A committee headed by Damodar Acharya, the Director of IIT Kharagpur, was formed by the HRD ministry in 2010. According to the Express report,  the IIT Kanpur faculty had rejected the committee’s report saying it hadn’t consulted with specialists. This was as far back as 2010.

In 2011, a committee headed by T Ramasami, secretary of the Department of Science and Technology, made the recommendation that weightage should be given to Class XII marks in addition to the two exams – JEE mains and JEE advanced.

This was then endorsed by the councils of the IITs and NITs in November 2011 and by state education ministers in February 2012.

However, this new measure never found any favour among most IIT senates.
IIT Kanpur senate held a meeting on 15 February in which members of the senate criticised most of the new measures and suggested they not be implemented until all the IIT senates had discussed it. Among the major complaints they had included the quality of the class XII examinations conducted by each state education board, the methods used to collect the views of all stake holders among other issues.

However, the HRD ministry instead set up a core committee to interact with the older IITs and said they would also reach out to the academic community from the IITs to get their views on the issue.

On 5 May, the IIT Bombay senate also recommended that the new system not be implemented from 2013 and should instead be ratified by them before being implemented. The IIT Delhi senate also raised objections to the new JEE format being implemented from 2013.

Despite these varied recommendations from IIT senates and the faculty on the new JEE format, the HRD ministry told them that the final decision would only be taken by the IIT council which did not have to be dependent on what the senates had said.

However, whether the the IIT council truly represented the opinion of the IITs is debatable. Of its membership of 30-32, roughly half (16) represent the IITs and IISc (through their respective chairman and director, and the balance are all nominees where the government has clear influence. This means Sibal only had to split opinion among some of the IIT directors and a majority would support his ideas at the IIT council.

Thus even as the All India IIT Faculty Federation met Sibal on 25 May to impress on him that the senates’ views should form the basis for any decision on a common entrance test, Sibal had already decided otherwise. Which is why he told them, that while their inputs would be taken, “final decision will be taken only by the IIT Council which could be different from the IIT senates’ majority decisions”.

This statement, quoted by the Express, clearly shows how Sibal won the day by disregarding what the faculty were telling him and breaking the unity of the IIT faculty on the issue. This is not a difficult task since the appointment of IIT chairmen depends on the HRD ministry.

And on 28 May, Sibal held a meeting with the councils of the IIT, IIIT and NIT and announced the creation of the new entrance examination for engineering colleges from 2013.

While the new examination scheme  may be the future of the IITs, it perhaps wouldn’t have hurt if the minister had chosen to preserve the autonomy of the IIT senates. The faculty have a bigger stake in brand IIT than politician Sibal. All the IIT Senates were asking for was to defer the common entrance exam decision to 2014 to consider better options. But Sibal was in a a hurry for his own reasons.


Sunday, June 10, 2012

244 - More IITs including IIT Bombay may go against common entrance test - Economic Times


9 JUN, 2012, 07.10PM IST, IANS 


NEW DELHI: IIT Delhi and IIT Bombay are likely to emulate Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) Kanpur which has decided to hold its own entrance test after rejecting HRD Minister Kapil Sibal's 'one nation, one test' proposal. 

A member of the IIT Delhi senate, who did not wish to be named, told IANS that IIT Delhi and IIT Bombay -- possibly other IITs also -- may soon follow IIT Kanpur's example. 

"There is a common sentiment, and most IITs are against the new pattern," the member said. 

"This was virtually forced on the senates by the IIT council," he said about the common entrance test. 

In a clear revolt against the human resource development ministry's move for a common engineering entrance test, IIT Kanpur Friday decided to hold its own entrance test from 2013. 

Upset with the ministry's decision to merge IIT Joint Entrance Exam (IIT-JEE) with the All India Engineering Entrance Examination (AIEEE), the 210-member senate of IIT Kanpur passed a resolution rejecting the new format. 

Even though there is no official reaction from the HRD ministry, a senior official said the senate could not overrule the IIT council. 

IIT Delhi Alumni Association (IITDAA), which has been spearheading the battle against the new format, is set to meet Saturday evening to decide on the future strategy. 

"What IIT Kanpur did is the right thing... the senates have been overruled in taking the decision," IITDAA president Somnath Bharti said. 

He questioned the government decision, saying it would adversely affect the quality of the IITs. 

"The senates need to be given more autonomy. The IITs have to compete with international engineering institutes like the MIT ( Massachusetts Institute of Technology). For the students who cannot afford going to international institutions, IITs are the only option," he said. 

"Instead of giving more facilities to the IITs so that they can compete internationally, the government is pulling them down," he said.

241 - ‘Uncertainty on JEE pattern to affect IIT aspirants next year’ - TOI


TNN | Jun 10, 2012, 02.30AM IST

NEW DELHI/MUMBAI: Confusion over the HRD ministry's plan for an all-inclusive common engineering test is likely to deepen ahead of IIT senate meetings tentatively scheduled for the third week of June for Delhi and July for Bombay. IIT Roorkee director Pradipta Banerji said he and others were concerned about the impact of the ongoing confusion on aspiring candidates. "This uncertainty is extremely unfair to the students who will be sitting for the exam in 2013." 

A senior faculty member said it might be too late for the students aiming for engineering entrance next year to re-orient themselves. "If this new format is a disaster it will be because of this confusion and discussion that is putting undue stress on students," he said. 

HRD Minister Kapil Sibal on May 28 had announced that from 2013, aspiring candidates for IITs and other central institutes like NITs and IIITs will take a single, reformatted common entrance test. He had said class XII board results would also be factored in. Sibal had claimed it was approved without dissent at the IIT Council meeting and had the backing of the senates of four of the seven IITs. "The council consists of the IITs, the IIITs and the NITs. There was not a single dissent. It was unanimously adopted. Therefore, I went forward," he had said. 

The IIT-Bombay's senate, which met before the HRD ministry's announcement last Monday, had put forth three main recommendations: the new exam must not be rolled out in 2013, that Class XII must not be accounted for and that the JEE-advanced exam must be subjective in nature. "However there is a clear divide between the IIT-B senate and the ministry. We have not yet decided which way the institute will go, but clearly none of our recommendations have been considered," said a faculty federation member. Vacations are on and with most teachers travelling; the IIT-B senate has decided to convene in early July and take a final call on whether to bow to the ministry's proposal or to go their own "independent autonomous way", said a faculty member. 

Sources in IIT Kharagpur senate said that so far there had been no opposition to HRD's decision, but the senate may reconsider its decision following the growing opinion against the common test. 

IIT Delhi director R K Shevgaonkar added there would be no difficulty in implementing the new format. Sources said that while not all IIT directors may have agreed with the decision wholeheartedly, now that a final decision has been made, efforts should be made to implement it. There was mixed reaction from the coaching institutes. Though FIITJEE director R L Trikha believes that these developments won't affect his students adversely, he said that Sibal's effort for a common exam for engineering colleges had been defeated. 

"So far we have not received any queries from the students. This is more because our teaching methodology is pattern proof and so whatever pattern be the exam be the students are comfortable. But the real issue is that Sibal's dream of one common exam has been defeated. He has managed just to do away with one exam by merging AIEEE with that of the IIT JEE. What about the dozens of other entrance exams? One IIT senate has already taken a bold step and other may follow soon," said Trikha, an alumni of IIT, Kanpur. 

According to TIME, another coaching centre, there is no confusion and the institute is preparing students as per the HRD directives for the common entrance test. "Currently the students are not at all concerned with the news that IIT Kanpur is going to conduct its own entrance test. The news is just 24 hour old and we are preparing the students for last so many months. Moreover, we are convinced that how can a senate of IIT override the decisions of HRD ministry?" said vice president, TIME, Ajay Anthony. 

(With inputs from Himanshi Dhawan, Hemali Chhapia & Manash Pratim Gohain)