“ a compromise formula which includes a proposal to take top 20% students based on percentile ranking of respective boards for preparing the merit list”

How meaningless is this solution ?. Higher education in India will become the domain of the school toppers and Children of affluent parents and we wonder why half a million students leave India to study undergraduate courses overseas. Children who will never return to a country that shunned them.

Is this is what we call inclusive in RTE ?.

God Save India

Inclusive education does not mean that everyone must enter, or pass out from, an IIT. It only means that if you wanted to, you could have a shot at it. The child labourer is excluded because she can never dream of entering an IIT; she may absolutely hate IIT, but not trying to join an IIT should be her decision. Even if there is only one IIT train, every child must have access to the platform where the train comes. Of course, not everyone will get on to the train but everyone knows what to do to have a shot at the train. This is called inclusion in education. Everyone must go to school till class 12; those who work hard, and are willing to work harder still, will join an IIT. Others will, by choice, decide not to work that hard and become economists.

Shubhashis Gangopadhyay


All children are born equal and mindless politicians are trying to grade the children and youth of the nation and create a new Brahamanical Caste system in Education, which is pandering to the neo rich who can afford to send their children to elite private schools and Coaching schools.

"HRD Ministry of India wants to build castles of higher education on the bamboo scaffoldings of its schools" ~ Satish Jha

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Tuesday, June 26, 2012

371 - Indian Institute of Technology directors mull solution - India Today


New Delhi, June 24, 2012 

The joint admission board (JAB) of the Indian Institute of Technology (IITs) met in New Delhi on Saturday to devise a compromise formula in the wake of two key institutes - IIT-Delhi and IIT-Kanpur - breaking ranks with the government on the one-country, one-test decision.

Sources said IIT directors debated if HRD minister Kapil Sibal's decision to hold a common joint entrance exam for all centrally funded technology institutes from 2013 could be adopted with some alterations.

The board has been conducting the IIT entrance test for 50 years.

A compromise formula suggested by the HRD ministry was discussed at the emergency meeting. It involves taking the top 20-30 students based on percentile ranking of respective boards for preparing the merit list. This criterion, which can replace the proposed format of giving weightage to board results, was deliberated as an alternative and received an unanimous favourable response.

The percentile criterion along with the performance in the JEE-Main could likely be used for selecting around 50,000 students; students' scores in the advanced test conducted by IITs will be taken into account to prepare the merit list for admission to the IITs.

Some of the IIT directors were reportedly not keen to discuss the proposed test at the JAB and insisted that the issue be deliberated only at the special IIT council meet.

The IITs will now debate this compromise formula during the IIT council meeting called by the HRD minister on June 27.




Sunday, June 24, 2012

367 - IIT admission board meets today amid exam angst - Indian Express



Kiritika Suneja : New Delhi, Sat Jun 23 2012, 01:22 hrs

The cloud of uncertainty over admissions to the elite Indian Institutes of Technology has thickened. In the backdrop of two leading IITs – Kanpur and Delhi – opposing the common entrance exam proposed by the government and two more seen joining their ranks, the IIT joint admission board (JAB) meets in the capital on Saturday to discuss the way forward. The development is crucial because it is the JAB which conducts the IIT joint entrance exams.

The meeting also gains significance because sources said IIT Bombay and Kharagpur too may shortly join Kanpur and Delhi.

On Thursday, IIT-Delhi rejected the single entrance test proposal, deciding to conduct its own entrance exam from next year, following in the footsteps of IIT-Kanpur.

The crisis brewing in the government over the matter can also be gauged by the fact that a meeting of the IIT council, the apex government-nominated body which has decided on holding common entrance tests, is also scheduled on June 27.

“The uncertainty faced by the student community, consequent to the resolutions of the senates of IIT Kanpur and IIT Delhi, requires to be addressed. 

Consequently, a special meeting of the IIT council is being convened on June 27,” the human resource ministry said in a statement.

The IIT council is headed by the HRD minister and includes directors of the seven old IITs. The directors also head the senate bodies of their respective institutions. The senates, as per IIT Act of 1961, are the highest decision-making bodies on all academic matters of the IITs. The council only holds an advisory role.

The HRD ministry, however takes a different view, pointing to an ordinance which states that the council is supreme in matters like holding entrance examinations.

The senate's role, on the other hand, comes only in matters relating to courses and examinations within IITs – which means, examinations after the students have entered the institutes through the entrance exams.

Sources said that 130 deemed universities having engineering colleges currently not under the common entrance exam plan may also be brought in. In that case, there could be opposition from these universities also.

“Any such move would be detrimental to our autonomy and we will oppose it. The government must consider the issues of the private sector and deemed universities before taking any drastic policy decision like in the case of management programmes last year and the common entrance test for technical institutes this year,” said H Chaturvedi, alternate president, Education Promotion Society for India (EPSI), an association of technical and management institutes.

Deemed universities like VIT Vellore, BITS Pilani, Thapar University and Manipal University conduct their own engineering entrance exams. Whether the entrance exam for the deemed universities would be different from the CET for IITs will be clear early next week when HRD minister Kapil Sibal meets them.

“We have rejected the IIT council's proposal and will conduct an entrance exam similar to the one in 2012 because we are worried about the students. No drastic changes will be done and we are joining hands with like-minded IITs. It is not the IITs' concern to follow political mandates,” IIT Faculty Federation president Sanjeev Sanghi told FE.

According to senate members, the council can only advise the IITs and the senate has the right not to join the exam.

“The IITs will not cater to political whims and fancies of introducing the CET from 2013 as general elections are set to be held in 2014,” Sanghi added.


366 - IIT council likely to re-think JEE reforms proposal

IIT council likely to re-think JEE reforms proposal

Published: Sunday, Jun 24, 2012, 8:30 IST
By DNA Correspondent | Place: Mumbai | Agency: DNA

While the Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay (IIT-B) will decide its stand on the reformed Joint Entrance Examination (JEE) debate on July 5 in a senate meeting, all eyes are set on the IIT council meeting to be conducted on June 27 in Delhi.

According to faculty members, the council is expected to re-think on the proposal.

Meanwhile, the IIT Joint Admission Board (JAB) members met on Saturday for a meeting to discuss the reformed JEE.

IIT-Delhi’s senate has decided to go the IIT-Kanpur way and hold its own entrance test. IIT-B, which had been silent all this while, has finally decided that it will hold its senate meeting on July 5 to decide its stand over the ministry of human resource department’s proposal of a single national entrance test for engineering courses.

An IIT-B professor said, “While the faculty at IIT-B has shown their displeasure over the reformed pattern of JEE, the decision of its stand will be taken only in the senate meeting. However, the council meeting, to be conducted on June 27 can propose an alternative to the said proposal. There will be no issue if there is an alternative which will take into consideration all the concerns raised by IITs.”

Another professor said it will be difficult to guess what the council meeting will have in its store. “But depending on the interventions that the reformed JEE proposal has seen in the recent past, after the meeting with prime minister, there could be chances that certain points raised by the IIT circles, time and again, will be taken into consideration by the council.”

In this confusion, there is no answer to students’ worries over the year in which these reforms are to be implemented. “I need to know how to prepare. Are class 12 board marks important? What exactly will the test be like? The confusion is certainly affecting my studies,” said a class 12 student who is preparing for the JEE 2013.

The proposal to hold a common national entrance test for admission to all the engineering courses, giving weightage to class 12 board exam marks, has received opposition from the IIT circle.

The faculty members of different IITs have shot down the proposal with concerns of dilution of academic standards, and as it also challenges the autonomy enjoyed by the IITs.


365 - IIT directors discuss compromise formula


Published: Saturday, Jun 23, 2012, 20:41 IST 
Place: New Delhi | Agency: PTI

Ahead of next week's meeting called by the government on the single entrance exam row, Indian Institute of technology (IIT) directors on Saturday discussed a compromise formula which includes a proposal to take top 20-30 students based on percentile ranking of respective boards for preparing the merit list.
Indications are that the percentile criterion replacing the proposed format of giving weightage to board results were deliberated at the Joint Admission Board (JAB) meeting, comprising IIT directors, as an alternative, possibly drawing a near unanimity.

The proposal is believed to have been mooted by the HRD Ministry and floated among the directors to end the impasse.

The percentile criterion along with performance in the JEE-Main will be used for selecting around 50,000 students and their score at the advanced test conducted by IITs will be taken into account to prepare the merit list for admission to IITs.

IIT senates are expected to deliberate on this after its approval at the IIT council meet.

The JAB has been conducting the IIT entrance test for 50 years. The meeting also evaluated the conduct of IIT-JEE 2012.

Insiders also suggested that some directors were averse to discussing the proposed test at the JAB and insisted that issue be deliberated only at the special IIT council meet.

The IIT council, the highest decision-making body headed by HRD Minister Kapil Sibal includes Directors of all the 16 IITs, heads of educational bodies like UGC and AICTE among others.

On the other hand, the IIT faculty federation, in a statement, appreciated the council meeting called by Sibal and hoped for an amicable solution to emerge.
"We appreciate that the minister has called IIT Council meeting on June 27, 2012 to address the concerns of IIT community. Through this process of discussion and engagement, we are confident that an amicable solution will emerge that would be acceptable to all, without compromising on the IITs autonomy."

The JAB meeting today came in the backdrop of IIT Delhi and Kanpur rejecting the government proposal and deciding to have a separate exam. There are indications that IIT Bombay and IIT Kharagpur may follow their Delhi and Kanpur counterparts.

The IIT Council on June 23 will discuss the situation created by the divisions among the elite educational institutions by the government proposal and the future course of action to end uncertainty among the student community.


Saturday, June 23, 2012

362 - CET row: HRD Ministry to meet IIT Council - Newswala



New Delhi, June 22 (IBNS): The Ministry of Human Resource Development (MHRD) has called a special meeting of Indian Institute of Technologies (IIT) Council on combined entrance test (CET) on June 27.

"The uncertainty faced by the student community, consequent to the resolutions of the senates of IIT Kanpur and IIT Delhi, requires to be addressed. Consequently, a special meeting of the IIT Council is being convened on 27.6.2012," read a ministry statement on Friday. 

Earlier Union Human Resource Development Minister Kapil Sibal said the government has no intentions to 'impact' on the autonomy of the IITs. 

Sibal faced tremendous criticisms and oppositions from the IIT Kanpur and others after he announced the decision to conduct combined entrance test for IITs with other premier engineering institutes.

IIT Kanpur has said it will conduct its own entrance test from 2013, rejecting a proposal by Sibal to unify such tests across India.

Earlier, IIT Faculty Federation, with the support of the powerful Alumni Association, wrote a letter to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh strongly opposing the move.

The IIT Alumni Association also reportedly said it is contemplating taking the minister to court for allegedly violating the principles of the Institutes of Technology Act, 1961.

IIT Faculty Federation secretary A.K. Mittal, in the letter to the PM had said, "We feel cheated. Despite promising us that no steps will be taken if there is any dissent, the HRD minister has gone ahead with his plans." 


2012-06-22 

361 - HRD Ministry calls a special meeting of IIT Council - Yahoo News


By ANI | ANI – Fri, Jun 22, 2012

New Delhi, June 22 (ANI): The Human Resource and Development (HRD) Ministry has called for a special meeting of the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) Council on June 27.
"The uncertainty faced by the student community, consequent to the resolutions of the senates of IIT Kanpur and IIT Delhi, requires to be addressed. Consequently, a special meeting of the IIT Council is being convened on 27.6.2012," said a HRD Ministry release.

Rejecting HRD Minister Kapil Sibal's single entrance test proposal, IIT-Delhi has decided to conduct its own entrance exam from next year, following in the footsteps of IIT-Kanpur.

Prof. Atul Kumar Mittal of Civil Engineering Department at IIT earlier on Thursday termed the Centre's policy as an impeachment on the autonomy of IITs across the country.
"The main reasons are whatever resolution has been adopted by the IIT Delhi Senate on May 2, those resolutions have been rejected by the IIT Council in their meeting on May 12 and 28 May, which we felt is not correct and that is why IIT Delhi Senate rightly has rejected the Council's proposal and IIT Delhi's Senate feels that it is an impeachment on our autonomy," said Prof. Mittal.

"So, it is a broader issue of the autonomy of our IIT system. And then we say what is the way forward, the way forward is that IIT will conduct its own exam, so we have decided that we will conduct our own exam," he added.
Prof. Sanjeev Sangrini, also of IIT Delhi, on his part said that the proposal of the government was an illogical decision as such the IITs would conduct their examinations similar to the previous years.

"So the Senate decided that enough is enough; whatever proposals we had put through, they were not acceded, whatever we had said and the proposal, which came, was a half way proposal, which had a lot of difficulties in implementation and the worse part was that there was insistence that this should be put into effect to 2013; we believe that if this would have been put into effect from 2013 then there would have been lot of problems, when the decision would have been implemented. Also it was an unsound decision," said Prof. Sangrini.

"So, we decided we will not abide by that and what we have done is that we will conduct our exam similar to the exam last time. Now for children who may be confused that how many exams they will have to give, we have also decided that we will get in touch with other IITs, who would not like to follow the Council's resolution and we will join hands with them and have an exam together with them," he added.

IIT Kanpur had early this month rejected the proposed test terming it 'academically and methodically unsound'.

The government had on May 28 announced the new test from 2013, under which aspiring candidates for IITs and other central institutes like NITs and IIITs will have to sit under new a format of common entrance test, which will also take plus two board results into consideration. (ANI)

Friday, June 22, 2012

355 - India | Updated Jun 22, 2012 at 03:31pm IST Kapil Sibal to meet IIT Council on new JEE format - IBN Live


India | Updated Jun 22, 2012 at 03:31pm IST

Kapil Sibal to meet IIT Council on new JEE format


New Delhi: Union Human Resource Development Minister Kapil Sibal on Friday called a special meeting of IIT Council on June 27 to discuss the impasse over the new entrance exam format. In a press release, Sibal said, "The uncertainty faced by the student community, consequent to the resolutions of the Senates of IIT Kanpur and IIT Delhi, requires to be addressed. Consequently, a special meeting of the IIT Council is being convened on 27.6.2012."

IIT-Delhi on Thursday rejected government's single entrance test proposal and decided to conduct separate test. The IIT-Delhi Senate officials said the institute will conduct the exam in association with IIT-Kanpur, which is also against the new format.

Sibal on Wednesday had told CNN-IBN that the new joint entrance exam will start in 2013. Sibal had made it clear that there is no going back on the new entrance test format for all the engineering institutes including the IITs.

In an interview with CNN-IBN Deputy Editor Sagarika Ghose, he defended the new format saying it would help improve the declining school standards and will also help more girl students get into the IITs considering they do well in Class 12 boards.

The trouble began after the HRD Ministry decided to go ahead and implement the new JEE format starting next year. The IITs objected to the decision saying the ministry took the decision without taking their concerns into account, primarily the inclsuion of Class 12 board results for admission. The IITs themsleves have been split over the HRD decision.

Monday, June 4, 2012

188 - How IIT Council Members over ruled IIT Senates

How IIT Council Members over ruled IIT Senates:

We have a situation where we have seven IIT Directors who could defend IITs facing  25 Babus appointed by HRD. Of the seven we now know only two endorsed the proposal and five opposed it.

How unanimous is this Decision to introduce a Common Entrance exam Nantionally ?

Just have a look at the composition of IIT Council.

In Matters of conscience the law of Majority has no Place
Mahatma Gandhi.


Will some one please tell our HRD Minister this .
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IIT Council (common for all IITs) with following members

Sr.   Position                                                                                              Numbers
1. The Minister in charge of technical education in the Central Govt.           1
2. Chairman of each Institute                                                                           7
3. Director of each Institute                                                                             7
4. Chairman UGC                                                                                             1
5. Director General, CSIR                                                                                1
6. Chairman, IISc                                                                                             1
7. Director, IISc                                                                                                1
8. Nominees of the Central Government                                                         3
9. Nominee of AICTE                                                                                      1
10. Nominees of the visitor                                                                           3-5
11. Members of the Parliament                                                                       3
12. Council Secretary (Jt. Secretary, MHRD)                                                1
Total                                                                                                             30-32