ISEET as announced was to give three scores on the result card - one was for the morning (easy) exam, also called mains, one was for the afternoon (difficult) exam, also called advanced, and the third was the percentile rank of the student in the respective board. Since board marks will be available only by beginning of June, the result of ISEET was to be announced in June.
What most IITs are saying is that the common national test (whose name keeps changing from meeting to meeting), should announce the results of the two tests by 30th April, without waiting for the 12th class marks. They may give an additional copy of the result which has all the scores in June, but they must give a result of just their own test by 30th April, and IITs will only consider this test result for screening. It is clear in the majority of IITs that board marks will only be an eligibility post facto, that is the students have to show a certain performance only at the time of admission in July (which is what we do right now).
The only change as far as board marks are concerned is that we are willing to increase the cutoff from 60% to slightly higher, and since there will be a hue and cry when we increase this cutoff, we are willing to consider this cutoff in terms of a normalized percentile.
However, there is a disagreement on 12th class marks.
The minority is not a minority of 1. Guwahaty is agreeing to using the Ramasami Committee formula as it is, that is without any JEE. So they are an extreme case.
Roorkee is agreeing for Ramasami Committee formula for screening, that is including 40% weight of board for screening. But they are suggesting JEE after that screening in July. Since this will delay the admission of all colleges in the entire country, they are suggesting that semester everywhere should start by 1st September. (They are saying that IIT Roorkee will start semester by 1st Sep., but it is obvious that it will have to be for all universities, all colleges, in the entire country, otherwise there will be too much chaos and shifting of students from one college to another, when IIT JEE results are out.)
We are not sure what the formal stance of IIT Madras is, but it is understood that they will agree to screening plus JEE without any weight of 12th class in either, if the eligibility based on board marks is increased substantially from 60% (and in terms of percentile).
Kharagpur's senate resolution is very confusing and people are trying to understand what they have said.
Delhi/Bombay/Kanpur are firm on ISEET as screening, JEE for ranking, and 12th class board for eligibility, and a small increase in eligibility condition in terms of percentile.
What most IITs are saying is that the common national test (whose name keeps changing from meeting to meeting), should announce the results of the two tests by 30th April, without waiting for the 12th class marks. They may give an additional copy of the result which has all the scores in June, but they must give a result of just their own test by 30th April, and IITs will only consider this test result for screening. It is clear in the majority of IITs that board marks will only be an eligibility post facto, that is the students have to show a certain performance only at the time of admission in July (which is what we do right now).
The only change as far as board marks are concerned is that we are willing to increase the cutoff from 60% to slightly higher, and since there will be a hue and cry when we increase this cutoff, we are willing to consider this cutoff in terms of a normalized percentile.
However, there is a disagreement on 12th class marks.
The minority is not a minority of 1. Guwahaty is agreeing to using the Ramasami Committee formula as it is, that is without any JEE. So they are an extreme case.
Roorkee is agreeing for Ramasami Committee formula for screening, that is including 40% weight of board for screening. But they are suggesting JEE after that screening in July. Since this will delay the admission of all colleges in the entire country, they are suggesting that semester everywhere should start by 1st September. (They are saying that IIT Roorkee will start semester by 1st Sep., but it is obvious that it will have to be for all universities, all colleges, in the entire country, otherwise there will be too much chaos and shifting of students from one college to another, when IIT JEE results are out.)
We are not sure what the formal stance of IIT Madras is, but it is understood that they will agree to screening plus JEE without any weight of 12th class in either, if the eligibility based on board marks is increased substantially from 60% (and in terms of percentile).
Kharagpur's senate resolution is very confusing and people are trying to understand what they have said.
Delhi/Bombay/Kanpur are firm on ISEET as screening, JEE for ranking, and 12th class board for eligibility, and a small increase in eligibility condition in terms of percentile.
As a nation we seem to have taken the fun out of education. My son in Sydney had minimal home work, never had any tuition at home played rugby and was in the Junior state cricket squad in NSW and breezed through a Double degree in Business and Law. I can say he enjoyed education
40% Weightage to Board exam results will result in diluting IITs further.
Stastical analysis and correlation techniques are numerical and cannot be applied to school children as it they were Robots and automatons. They are our children and the future of India and they are vulnerable and are struggling against competition to survive. They need to be protected and not exploited. ISEET will give rise to all subjects being taught at Coaching schools and a Poor but intelligent boy has no future in India.
So yes 20% may know the subject and can answer the questions and the remaining 80% have part knowledge and are able to guess the correct answers may be?
Rajarshi
Rajarshi
The fundamental problem I had with the content of your essay was that it seems to focus the onus of maintaining the brand value of the IIT JEE on our children.
This and some other points I have detailed in my own blogpost. I would be delighted if you and others would read and comment. I must inform you that I am an engineer nor an educationist. My argumentation is lay and hopes to influence.
Thanks much for the mental goad!
I request the HRD to stop wasting time and money on tweaking this JEE, because no matter which way they do it. It will only open the doors for ten to twenty thousand people. What is needed urgently is the HRD to spend time, energy and resources to revamp the entire system from the grass root levels.
Ensure all the “Human resource” (all children) of this country, gets access to schools, not only the privileged. Ensure uniform syllabus, teaching and evaluation methods across the various boards and country. Find a way to make teaching an attractive proposition; Teachers are the foundation of education, right now it is not a priority choice for a career, it needs to be fixed urgently. Teaching reforms should be made the first priority; entrance exam etc comes much later.
The HRD has should not start reforms at the top. The top is managing while the bottom is collapsing. It will ultimately lead to total collapse. We cannot build a glass palace on a tottering foundation. I say HRD stop wasting time trying to tweak the JEE. First fix the urgent problems. Get to the JEE later, it can manage till then.
We will hear of the details of the scam, the reason behind the haste etc only after those who stand to gain have safely transferred their money to their Swiss banks.